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We are overcounting covid deaths and hospitalizations. That’s a problem.
Wahington Post ^ | Janaury 13, 2023 | Leana S. Wen

Posted on 01/15/2023 7:15:27 AM PST by grundle

Two infectious-disease experts I spoke with believe that the number of deaths attributed to covid is far greater than the actual number of people dying from covid. Robin Dretler, an attending physician at Emory Decatur Hospital and the former president of Georgia’s chapter of Infectious Diseases Society of America, estimates that at his hospital, 90 percent of patients diagnosed with covid are actually in the hospital for some other illness.

“Since every hospitalized patient gets tested for covid, many are incidentally positive,” he said. A gunshot victim or someone who had a heart attack, for example, could test positive for the virus, but the infection has no bearing on why they sought medical care.

If these patients die, covid might get added to their death certificate along with the other diagnoses. But the coronavirus was not the primary contributor to their death and often played no role at all.

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1 posted on 01/15/2023 7:15:27 AM PST by grundle
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Trump said this and the media roasted him, but now that Biden is president.. this is now a “problem”


2 posted on 01/15/2023 7:17:20 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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As others have cleverly pointed out: if anyone who dies with COVID dies from COVID, it's only logical that anyone who dies after getting vaxxed died from the vax.
3 posted on 01/15/2023 7:18:59 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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These are the same corruptocrats who incentivized hospitals to declare Covid cases. Don’t get to have it both ways honey.


4 posted on 01/15/2023 7:21:23 AM PST by AT7Saluki (No cejar, no ceder)
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To: grundle

Nobody has been put on trial, jailed and/or executed for Covid and the response to Covid. THAT is the problem.


5 posted on 01/15/2023 7:24:34 AM PST by nonliberal (Z.)
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Nobody has been put on trial, jailed and/or executed for Covid and the response to Covid. THAT is the problem.

Brazilians have an expression, Vai acabar em pizza, it literally means, "It all ends in pizza" but a more colloquial translation would be, it's all ends in zilch, zip, Jack Sh*t! It's an expression which is often used about corruption trials or indictment of politicians where there fail to be any consequences for the guilty.
It means that at the end of all the media hoopla, all the main players — from both parties — end up a restaurant eating pizza together and laughing about it.
6 posted on 01/15/2023 7:29:41 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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Always HAS been a problem.

When facts are intentionally distorted by government and media to support their agenda and bring down political foes, that’s a problem.

One take away of the covid crisis and the vaccinations, the people that perpetuated this hoax learned that the citizens of the United States and around the world, would literally commit Jim Jones style suicide if they were told to . . .


7 posted on 01/15/2023 7:37:20 AM PST by MCSETots
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Our state health director came out in a press conference 2 yrs ago saying they count all deaths, regardless of the real cause, as covid deaths if tested positive


8 posted on 01/15/2023 7:37:38 AM PST by roving ( Pronouns- libs/suk)
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So now that the “pandemic of the unvaccinated” has been shown to actually be the “pandemic of the vaxxed” they’re suddenly worried about overcounting COVID cases and deaths.


9 posted on 01/15/2023 7:45:27 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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10 posted on 01/15/2023 7:46:30 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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What’s funny about this “died suddenly” phenomenon is the medical experts refusing or failing to say anything about whether they’re checking any of these people for myocarditis or whether they rolled up their sleeve for the experimental wonder drug.

It’s drawing more attention to the situation because it shows institutional clinical incompetence and/or an institutional coverup.


11 posted on 01/15/2023 7:48:28 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

BTTT!


12 posted on 01/15/2023 7:49:26 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 of day. )
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I recall a researcher at Johns Hopkins published a scholarly article during the pandemic that made the same conclusion. She noted that deaths from causes like heart disease and cancer were going down at about the same rate as COVID deaths were increasing despite heart disease and cancer deaths having been relatively steady on recent years. Her study was pulled and she was pilloried for her heresy.


13 posted on 01/15/2023 7:50:26 AM PST by The Great RJ
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What a vile den of vipers the left are. We’ve been saying that for 2 years now, and they vehemently denied it. Now that all the damage has been done in the name of a virus that is 99.5% overall survivable, they come out znd admit the truth whi h we all knew from he begging


14 posted on 01/15/2023 7:50:37 AM PST by Bob434
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3 years later, WAPO slowly fumbles their way toward the truth....now that its no longer politically convenient to openly lie anymore.


15 posted on 01/15/2023 7:52:21 AM PST by FLT-bird
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Wen is swapping positions so fast, the whiplash might last a long time. When she was on the scamdemic side of the lies, the Left loved her. Now that she has evidently realized she might be in “peril” for the lies she told that got people killed & is reversing her former stance, the Left is not liking her so much. She’s near the front of the pack of weasels stampeding to cover what they’ve done in an attempt to avoid accountability & perhaps retribution.


16 posted on 01/15/2023 8:04:11 AM PST by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control. $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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So now they’re going all in, absent any mea culpa whatsoever.

Nice. /s

Regardless, there is no ‘pass’ for them and their ilk.


17 posted on 01/15/2023 8:04:25 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: roving
Our state health director came out in a press conference 2 yrs ago saying they count all deaths, regardless of the real cause, as covid deaths if tested positive

It has actually been even worse than that. My brother-in-law died early in the “pandemic” before the tests for Covid were available to anyone who wasn't a celebrity or a politician. He was not tested and did not have symptoms that indicated that he had Covid. He was on hospice care for an inoperable cancerous brain tumor. But his demise was called a Covid death.

We did not know why this was done at first, but found out later that there were financial incentives for the hospital and doctor to lie. This was done all across the country... Murder victims, people who died in car accidents, people who died from heart attacks, and people who died from cancer like my brother-in-law were all called victims of Covid and at least in the beginning most did not have symptoms indicating Covid or a positive test.

This has been a huge fraud. The reasons behind it are hard to fathom, but it has to do with money, power, taking away people's rights and suppressing all dissent from the official narrative. And this is still going on... we still have a group here on Free Republic that defend the "vaccines", the actions of the government and attack all who are skeptical of what has been going on.

18 posted on 01/15/2023 8:16:45 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: grundle

Well no shit. We’ve been over counting for three years now.


19 posted on 01/15/2023 8:25:05 AM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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Overccounting seems to be a standard Fauci established to get more money.


20 posted on 01/15/2023 8:43:25 AM PST by chopperk
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