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US flights grounded because engineer accidentally 'replaced one file with another': Official
ABC News ^ | 01/12/2023 | Josh Margolin

Posted on 01/12/2023 11:36:07 AM PST by DFG

With the Federal Aviation Administration's Notice To all Air Missions, or NOTAM, system back up and running, staffing remains high and systems monitoring is at an urgently high level this morning, a senior official told ABC News Thursday.

Computer traffic on the NOTAM system is at super-high levels as airlines, pilots and airports start the day with normal flight operations while also trying to make up for delays and cancellations yesterday. At the same time, public and media computer traffic on the NOTAM system is running high because of global interest in the antiquated system that crashed on Wednesday.

The ground stop order that paused all airplane domestic departures and the FAA systems failures Wednesday morning appear to have been the result of a mistake that occurred during routine scheduled systems maintenance, according to a senior official briefed on the internal review.

An engineer "replaced one file with another," the official said, not realizing the mistake was being made. As the systems began showing problems and ultimately failed, FAA staff feverishly tried to figure out what had gone wrong. The engineer who made the error did not realize what had happened.

Engineers and IT teams are working to keep the system from crashing again today while they also try to figure out if there are any similar systems that could fail without redundancies.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aviation; faa; groundstop; notam; pingmonkey
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To: DFG

LOL!


41 posted on 01/12/2023 12:12:38 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: mountainlion

Probably precautionary. Doesn’t prove it wasn’t an engineer error, only that TPTB don’t know in real time if it’s an engineer error or the prelude to an attack.


42 posted on 01/12/2023 12:14:08 PM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: DFG

Where is Henry Silva from Amazon Women On The Moon?

He would ask is it bu**s**t or not?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9J2P4XZUo


43 posted on 01/12/2023 12:15:47 PM PST by moviefan8 (...you’re the customer, they are here to serve you. It doesn’t matter if he likes you or not.)
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To: DFG
The banking system runs on computers.

Push is on to eliminate cash.

Remember the Klaus Schwab quote.

44 posted on 01/12/2023 12:16:25 PM PST by Jumpmaster (U.S. Army Paratrooper. I am the 0.001%.)
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To: DFG
The banking system runs on computers.

Push is on to eliminate cash.

Remember the Klaus Schwab quote.

45 posted on 01/12/2023 12:16:27 PM PST by Jumpmaster (U.S. Army Paratrooper. I am the 0.001%.)
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To: Red Badger

Software isn’t finished until the last user is dead.


46 posted on 01/12/2023 12:17:14 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great minds drink alike...me and my baby havin' a hell of a night. - - BB King)
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To: DFG

Pete was quick on the draw yesterday to not rule out domestic terrorism. Turns out it’s just incompetence.


47 posted on 01/12/2023 12:18:13 PM PST by sdog22
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To: SakoL61R

The real question, is the engineer Woke?


48 posted on 01/12/2023 12:21:00 PM PST by oldasrocks
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To: DFG
Was the database damaged by H-1B programmers who were trained by Americans who were being terminated and forced to teach their replacements?

Was the database damaged by former coal miners and pipeline workers who "learned to code?"

-PJ

49 posted on 01/12/2023 12:22:30 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: EBH

🔥🔥🔥81 REFUELERS WERE ON TRANSPONDERS BETWEEN 9AM AND 2 PM EST... BUT ONLY A HANDFUL OF FIGHTERS ON TRANSPONDERS...

50 posted on 01/12/2023 12:23:39 PM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: PTBAA

Was it he who redefined the NOTAM acronym from “Notices to Airmen” to “Notices to Air Missions”

wokedywokedywoke.....


51 posted on 01/12/2023 12:26:13 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Vermont Lt
NOTAMs is a separate system to the air traffic control system. The air traffic control system is in many parts so it would be difficult to take it down with them NOTAM system. It took days to get air traffic back in the air after 911. Just a software system problem does not make sense.
52 posted on 01/12/2023 12:27:01 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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To: lrslattery

Did he do Canada’s, too...?


53 posted on 01/12/2023 12:28:14 PM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-flights-system-outage-grounded-b2260500.html

That dude gets around!


54 posted on 01/12/2023 12:28:49 PM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: DFG
An engineer "replaced one file with another," the official said, not realizing the mistake was being made.

More accurate - "We don't understand what they told us, so here's an excuse that sounds simple."

Most people dealing with anything 'computers' are ignorant and not interested in learning the nuances.

Most accurate would be - "We have old crap and it breaks, sorry 'bout that last one."
55 posted on 01/12/2023 12:29:03 PM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: C210N

The NOTAM was a cover for something else.

This is the same govt that told us:
Hillary is the smartest woman in the world
Trump is a threat to national security
The border is secure
Wear a mask and get your shot.
Joe Biden has no knowledge of his son’s business ties.


56 posted on 01/12/2023 12:29:05 PM PST by Texas resident (Who is running our country?)
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To: Campion

The NOTAM system is separate form the air traffic system so it is unlikely it took down the air traffic system. It took days to get the air traffic control System back up and traffic back in the air after 911.


57 posted on 01/12/2023 12:30:02 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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To: Texas resident
Maybe they should just switch to pictures


58 posted on 01/12/2023 12:42:53 PM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Fish Speaker

There has to be more to the story than a db file was copied over. I was a Unix admin for 30 years. Early reports said that a database file was damaged. Given the old age, I bet it was a flat db file. The system crashed and the file system inodes got damaged. They had to restore the file from backup. It is hard to imagine a scenario where an engineer copied over a production db file.

I worked on a fed contract with the DOE. There were a lot of systems that had single points of failure. This old system was probably chugging along for 30 years until it finally crapped the bed.


59 posted on 01/12/2023 12:55:11 PM PST by DeplorablePaul (protesters)
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To: DFG

60 posted on 01/12/2023 12:57:00 PM PST by SamAdams76 (4,777,271 | Truth Social | 87,821,414 | Twitter | Trump Followers)
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