Posted on 12/29/2022 3:55:18 AM PST by caww
Exactly!
https://fortune.com/2022/10/08/ukraine-celebrates-kerch-bridge-explosion-threatens-russia-war-effort/
>> the West is leading a proxy war with Russia
correct
Remember—Russia is an industrialized modern nation, not a third world state. She may not be a first class power but she can build rockets all day long, shells too, airplanes and tanks. Unless things change, she can fight for a decade—Ukraine can not. Unless we send in our boys (and girls) our bucks can’t win the war. When it comes down to it, we have the choice—do we go in and save Zelennskyy or leave him out to dry? Put that on a ballot!
“Zelensky is as much of a POS dictator as Putin.
A pox on all of them and a pox on us for taking sides.”
Exactly.
“Ukraine is losing. They should surrender.”
Ukraine can’t surrender. It is a tiny monster who is probably hiding in the Bahamas who is calling the shots.
Zelensky will fight to the last Ukrainian and then retire to a nice beach home somewhere.
Probably paid operatives. On their threads, they do not seem to rebut replies with rationale, other than repetition of their talking points.
I can SPEEDY-ily tell what time of day it is, based on the daily posts.
You think Europe is like North Korea and Iran? That’s some serious moral confusion you suffer under. Note how much hatred you wrote with when writing of them.
So I am confused, do we sell/give(which we also did in ww2) when not directly involved or not
1940 is well before dec 11 1941?
Seems to me this conflict is very similar, we sold:donated weapons to one side and when Russia who entered into ww2 allied or at least not in conflict with the axis, and became our “ally” we did the same for them
The Russians, the Brit’s, the French… all bleed and used our weapons and supplies.
I imagine the hope was for them to handle it and keep our boys out of it
Same as now weapons, ammunition, supplies that would be used to fight the Russians are being used to fight the Russians again without our boys involved
The MIC, well that is a topic, corruption and people making money on war is as old as well……
It's a shame, when someone comments like a lying a55.
Berlin 1945
Mosul 2017
Baghdad, 2003
I will respond as I did to Jon
England France and Russia would not have survived if it were not for the supplies, equipment, oil, fuel….either oh and we did it for 2 years while we were ostensibly neutral
So I guess the war lingering US in 1940 should have just stayed out of it and let the little mustache guy have his way
History does not repeat but it rhymes
Vietnam
Serbia...
Hiroshema
“The REAL GOAL of Russia is the other 85% of the world who HAVE NOT imposed ‘sanctions’. They are either on the fence...”
Not often i agree with you but here I do... To a point.
A further angle on this is, the principled opposition to unilateral invasion of sovereign countries that is fundamental to the basis of all post-WW2 international cooperation.
If Russia’s invasions and annexations were ever accepted as a legal fact by the UN General Assembly (no matter what bullshit excuse Russia presents for doing it in the girst place) then every other country with a Lebensraum fetish or a neighbor with useful natural assets would have a precedent for invading its neighbors.
A lot of countries that won’t take sides on Russia vs Ukraine do so specifically because they don’t want to enable or antagonise a more powerful country.
It stands to reason they’ll never back the annexations for the simple reason it’d legitimise the very thing that they cannot afford to greenlight.
23 weeks of headlines that Russia is running out of missiles...
Every one celebrated by Zeepers!
Every one wrong.
This week, they will see another headline about Russia running out of missiles, proclaim it is TRUE! and then salivate and call anyone else a Putinista.
Zeepers, best entertainment on FR since Monica.
“Why aren’t the Ukraine Cheerleaders here showing any bit of concern over what was just announced by Zelensky”
Siding with NWO and WEF is definitely concerning but i think, fix your own country first before condemning another to destruction. That’s a matter for Ukraine to deal with.
Being British, I want the globalists out. Problem is, they’re in all political parties. Even Farage is balls deep in the magic money tree and George Galloway has been arguing for every nation state payroll that’s anti Britain.
The most basic test of globalism is, is something anti freedom AND anti patriotism.
Can’t speak for American putinards who’re so stuck in Biden Derangement Syndrome that they’d actually vote for the NWO as offered by Russia, China, North Korea and Iran against because it kills their own homegrown NWO of Globohomo as well as ending liberty...
To save liberty, ya have to destroy it. REALLY?!
Supporting Putin’s NWO is anti freedom AND anti patriotism for such shitty reasons is Globalism.
Ukraine doing whatever it takes to stay free as Ukraine in opposition to the NWO that Russia is forcing on it, is not Globalism.
How about we mind our own business.
was without electricity and that electric-powered public transport was not running.
One thing we know with certainty is that every man or woman on the world stage plays their role for better or worse and is replaced. Kings, Queens, Presidents, Generals, Popes, etc.
It is a certainty Putin, Zelensky, Biden, Macron, Castreux, etc. will be gone eventually.
I'd prefer to see Soros removed...
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