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To: BobL

https://t.me/CyberspecNews

Outside the city, the close proximity of Russian and Ukrainian lines, often less than a kilometer apart, means that Russia doesn’t even need to use its heavy artillery as much, instead relying on an endless stream of mortar, grenade and rocket launcher fire to pound Ukrainian positions.

For the Ukrainian soldiers tasked with holding the first line, there is little to do but hope that one’s trench or dugout doesn’t take a direct hit.

“Our first and second lines of defense are relatively stable, but it comes at a great cost,” said Ivan, whose unit and exact posting have been kept undisclosed for security reasons.

“Some units are simply running out of people. From what I saw, in only one fight, we had around 10 of our guys killed, never mind the number of wounded. Not everyone could be extracted from the battlefield, some just bled out where they lay.”

In these conditions, the common belief about Russia’s poor effectiveness as a fighting force can quickly melt away.

“They (Ukrainian military leadership) tell everyone about the huge casualties suffered on the Russian side, but from what I could see around Bakhmut, things are more or less OK for them,” said Ivan. “In terms of the coordination between their brigades and artillery, and their overall unit cohesion, you can tell they are doing very well in this sector because of how difficult it is to fight against them.”

πŸ‡·πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ surprised that kyivIndependent would even publish this


24 posted on 12/15/2022 8:14:30 PM PST by Cathi
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To: Cathi

“surprised that kyiv Independent would even publish this”

Me too, and I doubt the Neocons will allow it to remain independent much longer. Can’t have the truth slipping out in mainstream media, don’t you know...


26 posted on 12/15/2022 8:19:53 PM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 14 degrees, brrrr!)
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To: Cathi

“surprised that Kyiv Independent would even publish this”

Putin/Kremlin thrives on deceit, Ukraine doesn’t have to lie.


28 posted on 12/15/2022 8:22:19 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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