Posted on 12/13/2022 8:40:18 PM PST by qaz123
CTH took considerable flak for reporting on the uniparty system of Georgia politics prior to the 2020 midterms. With the election in the rearview mirror, the Georgia Secretary of State is now proposing to permanently codify Democrat control of the state.
(Via Reason) […] Speaking to The New York Times last week, Raffensperger said he would petition the state legislature with three separate proposals. One would force large counties to open more locations for voting early. Another would lower the vote total needed to avoid a runoff from 50 percent to 45.
The third proposal is the most consequential, and the most interesting. Raffensperger will also state lawmakers to consider switching to a ranked choice ballot for future elections.
(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...
I’m not a lawyer but I’ve heard this phony form of voting could be challenged Constitutionally, and the sooner the better.
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I call this form of voting
Shell game.
It’s vote theft by weasel.
They take some votes away and give them to someone else.
It’s a particular weasely form of fraud .
You might be surprised. "Libertarian voters" aren't always "libertarian." They may just be signalling their dislike for both parties, sometimes with the Republicans more than with the Democrats.
There is no reason to think ranked choice hurt Republicans in general. Alaska is an anomaly.
Maine as well? A Republican lost reelection because of the progressive independent or third party candidates. I suppose you might be right in a solidly Republican state but there aren't so many of them left. What Maine and Alaska have in common are "Independent" senators who can count on winning second place votes from those who vote for one of the two major parties.
Ranked choice voting is a bit of a scam. The complicated counting process makes more opportunities for fraud, and the fact that many voters don't want to bother with second, third, and fourth choices are other problems.
Worked out for murky-cowski in AlASSka.
Well these things come up and its enraging but I can’t see it happening.
But to all the Freepers who gave me grief about not voting for Kemp, Raffensperger or Walker yeh.......
And Romney did to Massachusetts, btw. With friends like these, who needs Democrats?
Exactly. And people still believe their BS
Nor is she mine, but….
With her as Governor she has solid opposition from the legislature. She wouldn’t be able to enact any kind of anti-gun stuff without it. She wouldn’t be able to do anything like raising taxes without it.
Kemp as Governor. That same legislature is going to roll over for him. Roll over on things that matter. They dangle the low hanging fruit, guns and taxes(even though they’re going up), and distract everyone while they give away the state.
If you’re from Georgia, are you familiar with the Rowen Project?
Not enough Democrats? Really?
Or just enough?
I’ll give you a simple way to, possibly, prove my point.
Watch Diners, Drive Ins and Dives. Watch the episodes that take place in Fairbanks and Anchorage. You tell me if there aren’t enough Democrats there.
It’s not about the number of Democrats, it’s about the numbers that vote. No one is looking at or auditing any of these ballots. No one has any idea who’s voting. Did some small Alaskan village, of natives 100% vote for murkowski? Sure. How would anyone know. I’m betting there are some that had no idea there was another round of voting.
Remember murkowski lost a primary 12 years ago and somehow won with a write-in campaign with ballots that were illegible. Miraculous.
Re Post 40 …….Dayummmmmm!!!!!!!!
Tennessee Bans Ranked-Choice Voting in State, Local ElectionsNASHVILLE, Tenn., March 2, 2022 — The state of Tennessee has banned the use of ranked-choice voting, a method of holding elections that Republicans in the state legislature argued is confusing to most and leads to a lack of confidence in elections.Gov. Bill Lee, a Republican, signed S.B. 1820 into law on Monday, after party line votes on the legislation last month.
On February 14, the state Senate voted 26-4 in favor of the bill, and the state House voted 74-19 in favor of it later the same day.
In a tweet after the vote, Republican State Sen. Brian Kelsey, who sponsored the bill, said the decisive support for the ban was “a win for protecting election integrity and ensuring voter clarity at the ballot box.”
It was his signature on the consent decree but Stacey Abrams brought the suits to begin with
And if I’m not mistaken, on the real phone call that Pres Trump was recorded on, he confronted the SOS on that exact thing. The SOS denied it was a consent decree, where Pres Trump then stated it was printed on the document and that it was his signature.
There’s also some speculation that the SOS didn’t actually sign it and that his surrogate, Jordan Fuchs, actually did it. And contrary to the game she’s allowed to play, is a Democratic hack.
I’m betting that the SOS and Governor are so compromised that they make the Senator in The Godfather II, look like a boy scout.
This level of nefarious oblivion proves to me that elected GOP officials are not stoopid, they are the enemy. I will say for the umpteenth time, we can do nothing about the communists inflicting catastrophe on the nation until we eliminate the wall of Deputy Democrat protectors around them. That means abandoning the GOP, or at least replacing all of its officials and elected representatives, to make it a congenial home for conservatism. Unless your involvement is for the purpose of destroying the GOPe, it is all wasted resources.
We need maximum chaos and destruction of the Deep State. I heard Daniel Horowitz say recently that in order to accomplish conservative legislation the GOP would need an 85:15 majority in the Sinate. I suspect he is an optimist.
t’s DOA in the GA legislature
I truly hope you’re right. And there are some legit Conservatives in the state’s legislature.
But....The Republican Majority isn’t as big as I wish it was. And, I don’t trust the RINOs in the Gold Dome to NOT side with the Democrats, who would love to have RCV.
If it does pass, Georgia is done.
And for a moment, lets not forget about reducing the winning number to 45%. Why stop there? Why not make it 35% of the vote? So a candidate will not even have to get a majority anymore in the state. The SOS is out of his corrupt and compromised mind.
Republican across the board and a very strong majority in the legislature.
But, it would appear that the state Supreme Ct could be compromised after the Dem’s sued to have more early voting in the runoff and won.
Kemp is far better than Perdue who was useless. I’m guessing you voted for Abrams
It’s amazing some of the arrogance and pretentiousness that some on here display.
NO...I did not vote for Abrams. Nor did I vote for Kemp. Why? If you had read an earlier comment I made, you would have read where I documented how the two of them aren’t that far apart on the big things. You seem to be the kind of Republican voter in Georgia that listens to the....I love the 2nd Amendment, y’all - Low taxes, y’all - Freedom, y’all - Go DAWGS, y’all.
Those are the only things that a Georgia legislator, really, needs to talk about. They don’t need to mention all the dirty backroom deals that are dropped on their constituents, who are told after the fact to take a huge bite of the sh*t sandwich they just got served.
And while you’re sitting there, happy as can be about that, Kemp and the rest are stabbing you, me and everyone else in the back.
Raffensperger is a problem but the state legislature makes the laws not him. Man o Man did you put yourself on the tee with that one.
The Legislature makes the laws not him, huh? The same legislature that makes the election laws, right? The same legislature that was aghast when they found out that he signed a consent decree, IN SECRET, and they did NOTHING about it, when it was there constitutional obligation to do so? That legislature?
The same legislature that had the ability to get rid of, once and for and be an example to other states, to get rid of Mail In Voting-Drop Boxes-Ballot Harvesting, but chose to roll over for Kemp, the SOS, Ralston and Miller. The same Miller that campaigned on getting rid of the aforementioned but has yet to present any legislation in that regard.
That legislature?
Why bother petitioning the legislature? He illegally changed voting rules before and nothing happened.
Maybe the folks in the Tennessee legislature are actually paying attention to what is happening in their state.
Nashville is done. Radically Left and never coming back. Again, from earlier Governors wanting to import liberal companies who bring ALL of their liberal employees.
Chattanooga is on the downhill slide, as well, if not already there. And Knoxville is trending that way. Although, they elected the Undertaker for Mayor so maybe he can stop that.
And then you have the small towns like Maryville, Tn
Federalist Guy Did Not Move To Tennessee To Live With A Bunch Of Liberal Colonizers
Sadly, Tennessee had a chance to something great a few years ago, but the Governor and AG wanted no part of it, when the legislature sued the feds over healthcare costs for the refugees being settled there by Soetero. Eventually the case was tossed because the Gov and AG didn’t participate, at least that’s what the criminal judge said.
Something like that would never happen in Georgia. Kemp loves refugees and illegals, as he was one of the first to want the Afghan’s.
True, but the legislature, in 2020, could have stepped up and declared his ‘secret consent decree’ and the changes he secretly made, null and void.
They chose to sit on the sidelines.
“You can’t start a MAGA Party. If you don’t vote Republican, then the demoncraps win.” ~ says RINO PsOS everywhere
If you don’t vote Republican, then the demoncraps win.
That is the quicksand we’ve allowed the RNC and state/local GOP machine to put us in. Sadly.
Toss in the fact that unless you have the money, you’re not getting any help from any of them unless you’re the preferred candidate and they will do everything they can to crush you.
And then, of course, the typical VOTER. One that pays very little attention to what their incumbent is doing to them and unwilling to give someone else a chance. There are examples all over the place. One of the best is South Carolina in electing Graham and Scott.
Great article, thanks for posting. And I’ll take a stab in saying that few will read it.
But, for those on here that are from Georgia, you should.
From the article...
If you’re still undecided as to whether Rigged Choice Voting is less than desirable, consider that liberals everywhere cheered the successful result of the RCV propaganda campaign in Alaska, as the following puff pieces illustrate:
Washington Post: “[Alaska’s] new ranked-choice voting system gives Republican moderates a fighting chance against Trump and his allies.”
The L.A. Times blandly (not to mention falsely) asserts that “RCV marginalizes ‘hard liners’ from BOTH sides of the spectrum”.
This is an obvious lie, because the media’s political spectrum runs only from “moderate” (leftist moonbat) through “right-wing” (like Mitt Romney) and “FAR right” (anyone the media really hates). There is no such thing as “liberal”, and certainly not any “hard-liners” on the left. Other liberal outlets joyously proclaimed that RCV could lead to the election of fewer white males, facilitating instead the victories of “coalition-builders” as exemplified by “women and minorities”.
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