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To: DiogenesLamp

As much as I dislike the AP, I find their reporting on this plausible:

“CLAIM: Arizona’s largest county in the 2020 election received and counted 74,000 mail-in ballots that had no record of ever being sent out to voters.

THE FACTS: False. The claim mischaracterizes reports that are intended to help political parties track early voters for their get-out-the-vote efforts, not tally mail-in ballots through Election Day. The reports don’t represent all mail-in ballots sent out and received, so the numbers aren’t expected to match up, according to Maricopa County officials and outside experts.

“We have 74,243 mail-in ballots where there is no clear record of them being sent,” Logan said at a meeting livestreamed at Arizona’s Capitol on Thursday. “That could be something where documentation wasn’t done right. There’s a clerical issue. There’s not proper things there, but I think when we’ve got 74,000, it merits knocking on a door and validating some of this information.”

Logan based his false claim on two types of early voting reports issued by Maricopa County: EV32 files and EV33 files. He claimed that EV32 files are “supposed to give a record of when a mail-in ballot is sent” and EV33 files are “supposed to give a record of when the mail-in ballot is received.”

That’s not accurate, according to Maricopa County officials, who tweeted on Friday that “the EV32 Returns & EV33 files are not the proper files to refer to for a complete accumulating of all early ballots sent and received.”

Instead, the EV32 and EV33 files are reports created for political parties to aid them in their get-out-the-vote efforts during early voting, according to Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser at the Democracy Fund and a former Maricopa County elections official. Arizona law requires county recorders to provide this data to political parties and candidates, Patrick said.

Arizona reports both mail-in ballots and early in-person votes at voting centers as early votes, so both are included in the data in files EV32 and EV33, Patrick said.”

https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-arizona-ap-fact-check-election-2020-campaign-2016-f0c36df59ee1069d65aa6a70a22d88cc

A couple of days after the election, I heard Hannity claiming Arizona didn’t know if they had 400,000 votes left to count or 650,000. He cited that as reason to be suspicious.

The only thing suspicious is in Hannity’s head. He was confusing Maricopa County’s 400,000 left to count with Arizona’s 650,000 left to count, and 2 minutes of Internet search by a staffer would have cleared up his confusion.


And look at this:

“Instead, the EV32 and EV33 files are reports created for political parties to aid them in their get-out-the-vote efforts during early voting, according to Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser at the Democracy Fund and a former Maricopa County elections official. Arizona law requires county recorders to provide this data to political parties and candidates, Patrick said.”

Democrats are very good at USING those files to get out the votes THEY want. Republicans SUCK at using those reports - provided to both parties BY LAW - to get out OUR vote!


104 posted on 12/07/2022 5:23:46 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Mr Rogers
I do not know if what you have sent me actually addresses the issue. What I learned of it was approximately 2 years ago, and I no longer remember the details as well as I used to know.

My recollection is that the Cyber Ninja audit said these 74,000 votes were problematic, and that is the extent that I remember at the moment.

I also recall a canvasing team trying to run down all the voters in the database and I believe they claimed they found over 200,000 fake voters. There were several threads on this topic almost two years ago.

So do I feel strongly enough about this to go look up all this old information? No. I'm not in Arizona, I can't do anything about it, and I have a life that requires me to do more productive things.

If I run across it again, and if I remember this discussion, I will try to make a note of it and advance the information at some future date.

But my recollection is that there are very good reasons not to trust the election results in Maricopa County Arizona.

138 posted on 12/08/2022 1:14:47 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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