[PsyCon]

But there has been and continues to be fraud. And voting by mail has become its major instrument.

There is a serious problem appealing to independent voters. It seems it is always much easier to know what did not motivate them than to know what will motivate them.

Without auditable and verifiable actual voting records, how does anyone actually know? Democrats have a long history of committing fraud and Republicans have an equally long history of pretending it does not matter.

[Mr Rogers]

Voting by mail is not going away. If anything, it is spreading. We either learn to use it to work for us, or lose.

If there is cheating - and I don’t think there is in Arizona, although Atlanta and Philly are a different matter - then we need to learn to cheat better than they do.