Of course they are.
It was an utterly failed Ukrainian false flag that most of NATO, the US, and Poland knew was in the works.
‘Ukraine’s Epic Fail at Manufacturing a False Flag’.
https://sonar21.com/ukraines-epic-fail-at-manufacturing-a-false-flag/
The photographer, as well as most of aspects of social media, etc. covering the war/conflict and this occurrence, of those missile parts in Poland blew the whole false flag wide the hell open and exposed it for the garbage it was and is.
I think I just discovered another negative about globalism, you can’t figure out who bought munitions from whom so now...you can’t identify who fired them.
Exactly! Whether it was a Russian missile or a Ukrainian one is irrelevant. This was undoubtably an error and not a deliberate attack from either side.
Zelensky and his regime have gotten away with REPEATEDLY shelling the Russian occupied Nuclear Power Plant and falsely blaming Russia. He thought he could get away with the same tactic by shooting a rocket to Poland and FALSELY claiming it was a Russian attack.
He wanted to trigger further NATO intervention and, THANK GOD, he failed… at least so far.
The Pole’s themselves, said it was a weapon from Ukraine, and the photographic evidence proves it to be so...
It sounds to me like Washington, Brussels and Kiev are emitting a collective; “Dammit”
I’m also surprised.
I can see everyone making a lot of smoke and noise for politics and propaganda, and I can see serious condemnation and puffed-up harumphing to avoid future incidents, but I find it hard to believe that serious leaders would see something like this as a triggering violation.
If Russia is East of Ukraine and Poland is West of Ukraine, then how does one shoot a missile at an incoming from the East and hit what’s West of it?
Yes, so many want to see a hidden agenda behind everything.
Missiles by the dozen are flying 100s of miles, counter anti-air missiles are being launched at even higher speeds 50 miles away.
You are going to have misses, errors and when those crash they will explode.
Hey, instead of blowing up the whole world, lets just buy Poland a new tractor.
In general, avoiding World War III is a good idea.
Chris Pleasance is asserting a conspiracy where none exists.
- Given that Poland has been arguing for greater military involvement against Russia by NATO for months now, this was the perfect opportunity for them to get it. But they haven’t. That strongly supports the missile not being Russia’s.
- As far as I’m aware, Russia has no S300 missile defense batteries on range of the crash site, whereas Ukraine does.
- It definitely wasn’t a Russian Kalibr aimed at Poland, because otherwise the tractor in all the photos would have been vaporized on impact. This further supports that it was from a less explosive missile from an S300.
- All photos of debris that have been attributed to the crashed missile are consistent with an S300.
The cynical part of me is saying that the NATO nations are nonetheless doing whatever they can to keep the flow of weapons going to Ukraine without getting themselves involved on an official nation-to-nation level, so as to bleed away at Russia using Ukrainians only as their proverbial cannon fodder at choice.
The desperation with which Zelensky is acting in this incident, however, seems to indicate Ukraine’s position is so dire at the moment that direct Western involvement against Russia is now a necessity.
NATO probably did it as a trigger or a distraction.
Or it could’ve been a false flag (although why bomb farmland in the middle of nowhere?)
Or it could’ve been launched to intercept a missile coming from Belarus.
Of course our resident Putinistas avoid the obviously point that if Russia confined its rocketry to targets in south and east Ukraine instead of trying to hit central, north and west Ukraine, then Poland and Moldova wouldn’t be at risk at all.
Russia’s been firing into Khmelnytskyi Oblast recently. I know it well. It’s named for a very small city with no direct relevance to the conflict beyond hosting a few thousand displaced persons, and has a smaller city with a nuclear power station.
Where is Russia firing at it from? Certainly not Russia. Either its missiles are traveling south out of Belarus or north out of the occupied region. Either way, Ukraine has incoming to shoot at.
And if that’s true also for population centers north or east of that Oblast, it means a wayward Russian missile OR a wayward Ukrainian missile could easily end up travelling some distance off course and into a neighbor.
If Russia wasn’t firing that deep into Ukraine then Zelenskyy wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. He has plausible deniability because Russia has been firing deep into areas far outside the theater of conflict. Even if the missile is Ukrainian, it would be difficult to prove that it was deliberately fired at Poland.
LARGE BLAST CRATER means Russian missile
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I’m starting to really question whether that missile was Ukrainian, the crater looks pretty substantial. I thought air defence missiles don’t usually have that big of a payload, also thought they self destruct when they don’t hit there target ? #Poland
https://twitter.com/ukpoliticosis/status/1593170747840925696
The warhead of the missile did not explode, leaving the falling steel case mostly intact. This permitted it to be photographed and identified. This was bad luck for the conspiring warmongers whose plan to trigger an all-out war was stymied.
This early S-300 (circa 1979) has a maximum range of only 75 kilometers so it was impossible for the Russians to have fired it from the positions they occupy.
How can a Ukrainian air defense missile fly westbound from Ukraine into Poland when it is an air defense missile used to fly eastbound to intercept westbound Russian missiles over Ukraine?
This was a deliberate attempt at provocation by Ukraine because this missile had to have been sent westward toward Poland.
Further, both NATO and Russia have satellite surveillance and both sides knew instantly when this missile was launched, where it was launched and the direction it flew.
The rocket which landed in Poland was Russian. The idiot Russian orc programmed in the latitude of Kyiv, Ukraine, but the longitude of Lviv, Ukraine. That’s reportedly where the missile landed.
From the discoverer: