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Britain is a political wasteland
Spiked ^ | 20 Oct 2022 | Brendan O'Neill

Posted on 10/22/2022 12:08:38 PM PDT by Rummyfan

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1 posted on 10/22/2022 12:08:38 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Heh, the Brits have nothing on us with respect to political wastelands.


2 posted on 10/22/2022 12:15:31 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Rummyfan

No. It’s a “Teenage Wasteland”.😉 🇬🇧


3 posted on 10/22/2022 12:19:16 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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> Heh, the Brits have nothing on us with respect to political wastelands. <

I’m actually a little jealous. The British system is far from perfect. But incompetent leaders can quickly be removed. On the other hand, we’re stuck with Mr. Potato Head for at least two more years.


4 posted on 10/22/2022 12:19:24 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Rummyfan

She was/is the Brit version of Biden!

Someone, please help me with a better word than version and not get us banned.


5 posted on 10/22/2022 12:21:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdeities, can make you commit atrocities!!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
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7 posted on 10/22/2022 12:24:26 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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The Tory Party is the Republicans without a MAGA movement.

Imagine the RINO establishment being unchallenged. That’s the Tories right now. They are hopelessly lost and will get smoked in the next election despite the fact that nobody really believes in or has any confidence in Labour either - and for damn good reason.

What the Tories desperately need to is to rally behind somebody like Nigel Farage and to flush the Globalist, Gaia Worshiping, Remoaner establishment down the loo.


8 posted on 10/22/2022 12:27:22 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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What they need are more Moslems.


9 posted on 10/22/2022 12:31:23 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: mac_truck

I’ll bet Larry would be most capable PM since Thatcher.


10 posted on 10/22/2022 12:58:21 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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Larry can’t sign any spending authorizations because he can’t hold a pen...so yes.


11 posted on 10/22/2022 1:03:17 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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Liz Truss - ‘I’m a fighter, not a quitter’

Similar outcome to a guy named Dave Wannstedt, who said while he was head coach of the Chicago Bears - "All the pieces are in place." What he really meant was "All the places are in pieces."

12 posted on 10/22/2022 1:03:43 PM PDT by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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Courage has been washed from their culture since the war. Everyone is expected to think small and go with the flow.


13 posted on 10/22/2022 2:29:54 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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It’s like America. The rightmost wing of the right major party is to the left of 40% of the voters, and most of the party despise those voters.


14 posted on 10/22/2022 2:32:44 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And manly hearts to guard the fair)
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Seems the British are not governable... This is what happens when socialists try to rule without the application of sufficient force. And I mean physical force. Same thing is rearing up it's ugly head in America.
15 posted on 10/22/2022 3:09:06 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground. - Mencken)
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That’s the Tories right now. They are hopelessly lost and will get smoked in the next election despite the fact that nobody really believes in or has any confidence in Labour either - and for damn good reason.

At least the Tories got them out of the EU. That's huge. They need to take the next step. Reform the welfare state of the UK. They worship the NHS. They need to allow private competition so that the NHS is not the only game in town. But yeah, that's their problem. We have our own $#it to worry about.

16 posted on 10/22/2022 3:11:50 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Leaning Right

I sense that if there is truly a red tsunami, a coterie of Democrat bigwigs and donors will trek to the White House to tell Joe, “your time is up, buddy.”


17 posted on 10/22/2022 3:16:12 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: FLT-bird
The Tory Party is the Republicans without a MAGA movement.

Not really. The Tory Party has two big factions, one is like the RINOs and the others are Libtards. Even Tories that America thinks are like Republicans are actually far more RINO than the others.

They are hopelessly lost and will get smoked in the next election despite the fact that nobody really believes in or has any confidence in Labour either - and for damn good reason.

Rather impressively, I've seen die-hard Tory backing business folk ruefully admit that while they thought the Corbyn/McDonnell manifesto of 2019 was "bonkers", at least it was costed and run by the OBR and Bank of England - wouldn't have tanked the economy as badly or as quickly as the Truss/Kwarteng "kamikaze" budget did. Imagine that - they're basically saying that the Tories screwed up so bad we would've been better off having the yoghurt-knitting hippie pro-IRA, pro-Hamas, pro-Russia loonie left guy in charge. They also note - Corbyn was pro-Brexit, wasn't massively enthused at COVID lockdowns, and he wouldn't have funded Ukraine's war effort either; he'd have been suing for peace and telling Ukraine to just give up and accept Russian annexation.

They can't work out if Starmer would be better than Corbyn or worse, but they sure agree that BOTH leaders would've been better than Truss.

What the Tories desperately need to is to rally behind somebody like Nigel Farage and to flush the Globalist, Gaia Worshiping, Remoaner establishment down the loo.

FAIL! Nigel Farage and Jacob Rees-Mogg made their money the same way Soros did. They both hedged on Brexit and made millions, just as Soros hedged in 1992 and made billions. I wouldn't put either of them in charge of a whelk stall. They're good businessmen, good entrepeneurs, exceptionally sharp minds, but the simple fact is they serve other masters and we don't know who or what those masters are. We don't want to end up escaping the Davos lot but having something worse.

JRM is effectively the Tory equivalent of Peter Mandelson (friend of Russian oligarchs who handed out passports to dodgy billionaires). Things are bad enough here without introducing institutionalised oligarchy.

What the Tory needs is:


18 posted on 10/22/2022 4:20:57 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The NHS is totally on its knees at the moment, but it is not a big state monolith in the way it’s caricatured in the USA.

Internal market competition was introduced in the 90s, and there’s already a healthy private sector (almost all General Practice, dentists and opticians are private).

The problems are really with the hospital networks where if anything too much is being done by private contractors and freelancers - projects that could’ve been done inhouse in a year or two with the right resources are providing revolving doors for consultants on fixed term contracts who have absolutely no incentive to deliver. Their contracts end, new consultants take over, and start from scratch.

It’s currently being broken up into groups where “integrated care services” (mostly provided by the private sector) will take over. Maybe that’ll help.

The UK is too small for a USA approach to work - there’s no way England could adopt the American model without sending the cost of treatment through the roof, far out of range for most people to afford. (some states in the USA have the same issue - USA needs to de-risk across state borders to solve that; if you encouraged much larger insurance players to operate across all fifty states, y’all would see the cost of healthcare plummet. People might not like that - America has its sacred cows too, it’s not just us.)


19 posted on 10/22/2022 4:32:49 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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On the other hand, we’re stuck with Mr. Potato Head for at least two more years.....

Well, unless..... Don't want to say it.

20 posted on 10/22/2022 5:39:06 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the in civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. )
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