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To: DonaldC

As long as our industry has shop in China, we aren’t going to war with them.

Russia was Ukraine's biggest trading partner when they went to war. Germany was one of the US's biggest trading partners when WWII started. Japan was another.

Norman Angell argued before WWI that trade had made war impossible between the Great Powers. He will likely always be wrong. As long as territorial gain remains a way for political leaders to gain long-lasting personal fame and glory, war will continue to be a part of human existence.

Value of Imports from Ten Chief Suppliers First Eight Months, 1929 and 1930

Country and rank in 1930 1929 1930 Per cent decline in value
 (Value in thousands of dollars)  
1. Canada335,87411.2 279,01212.8 -16.9
2. Japan270,8729.0 178,4618.2 -34.1
3. United Kingdom223,4987.4 148,4606.8 -33.6
4. Germany171,5575.7 122,7755.7 -28.4
5. British Malaya171,1155.7 109,3545.0 -36.1
6. Brazil142,1214.7 87,8404.1 -38.1
7. China121,1414.0 80,9783.7 -33 1
8. Cuba155,4025.2 79,7283.7 -48.7
9. British India108,8693.6 78,7203.6 -27.7
10. France109,2953.6 75,7443.5 30.7
Other countries1,198,91039.9 933,76643.9 -22.1
Totals3,008,714100.0 2,174,838100.0 27.7

 

Value of Exports to Ten Chief Markets First Eight Months, 1929 and 1930

 1929 1930 Per cent change in value
 (Value in thousands of dollars)  
1. Canada659,07119.3 480,50518.2 -27.1
2. United Kingdom.517,43515.2 433,31116.4 -16.2
3. Germany231,3756.8 169,9676.4 -26.5
4. France155,4714.6 138,9805.3 -10.6
5. Japan153,1104.5 113,3404.3 26.0
6. Argentina145,9444.8 92,1853.5 -36.8
7. Soviet Russia47,3731.4 86,8453.3 +83.3
8. Mexico83,7882.4 82,7443.1 -1.2
9. Cuba88,2262.6 69,0572.6 -21.7
10. Italy94,5232.8 67,1962.5 -28.9
Other countries1,230,19736.1 907,01634.4 -26.3
Total3,406,513100.0 2,641,146100.0 -22.5

21 posted on 10/17/2022 8:50:53 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

I’m not talking trading partners. The last year should have taught us we don’t make enough here to sustain ourselves. That’s how China owns us and we are not going to war with them. Also, if anyone thinks Russia has problems rounding up troops to go to Ukraine, wait till our gov tries to get people to go to Taiwan.


24 posted on 10/17/2022 8:56:10 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“As long as territorial gain remains a way for political leaders to gain long-lasting personal fame and glory, war will continue to be a part of human existence.”

Lebow has analysed a lot of wars and classifies the instigation of the wars into 5 primary motives and combos there of.. Material ( territitory, resourcs etc) is one reason. Others being, standing (Prestige), security, revenge and domestic politics. A classic example of a war that was not driven by territorial aquisition is GW2 in 2003.


36 posted on 10/17/2022 10:52:44 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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