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To: DUMBGRUNT
Forget I said anything.   I had to Google boyars.   Why do you even care about this war that isn't a concern of ours at all?   It seems that you are way to involved with this than a normal person should be.
97 posted on 10/10/2022 11:13:22 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: higgmeister

—” Why do you even care about this war that isn’t a concern of ours at all? It seems that you are way to involved with this than a normal person should be.”

A good question.
And difficult to answer definitely.

Some of the inputs that guided my thinking:

In simple terms, the domino theory in action.
“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes,” a fitting but fake Mark Twain quote.
Should Putin fatten up by eating his neighbors, he will not stop. Can’t eat just one.
Before Putin’s greed overwhelmed him, he could have managed his energy sales to help the unfortunate Mother Russia, but no.
The Russian economy was similar to that of Mexico, some say a gas station with nukes in the back. Name a successful consumer product from Russia.

Some underlying form:
SOCEUR and Resistance Operating Concept (ROC)
https://sof.news/uw/resistance-operating-concept/
There is a lot going on down here, when you see the stories of the old man shooting down an Su24 with his shotgun, it likely originated from ROC. Even more interesting considering the origin.
This is about the “hearts and minds” v. II. Russia puts a lot of resources into their version without much success. (Another surprise)

Clausewitz claimed “war is a continuation of politics by other means,” (a google translation, actual words may vary.)
Putin may eventually gain something. But a Pyrrhic victory of historic portions. Not tomorrow, not soon but coming is the collapse of the Russian Federation. Selection of conscripts from minority groups beyond Moscow and Saint Petersburg (home of his boyars). And gross mistreatment of most of his army... People notice and the survivors will be sure to tell; “Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember, with advantages,”. Word gets out.

With the 0bama recession, some of my neighbors were wiped out, and many that moved in were from Eastern Europe adding to a fair number of Polish. Also, a large and beautiful Ukrainian church was built a few miles from my position.

I have not met any East Europeans that do not have a hatred of Putin.
A few tasty perogies and they influenced my views.

The attack on the Kerch Bridge may be remembered like the raid on Vermork Norway?
Probably sometime before, we learn any factual details.
‘Who Dares Wins’.

Not a warmonger and I bear the scars of being shot in the face, RVN 1969.

—” way to involved with this than a normal person should be.”
Perhaps, but who claims to be normal?

Thank you for a fair question most replies on Ukraine threads are purulent drool, wasting time.


101 posted on 10/11/2022 10:55:13 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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