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To: SoCal Pubbie

Most people in the Crimea are ethnically Russian and have been part of Russia for 8 years now. They don’t want to be dragged back into the Ukraine, only to be ruled over by people who now hate them because of this war, that would be a disaster.


195 posted on 10/08/2022 10:46:59 AM PDT by FreedomVsControl
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To: FreedomVsControl
> Most people in the Crimea are ethnically Russian and have been part of Russia for 8 years now.

For how many years, had the then USSR, shipped Russian nationals into industrial/ mineral rich (Donbass) or strategic (Crimea) parts of Ukraine to control them while leaving the merely agricultural parts to the Soviet perceived local yokels. Who were thought weak enough to starve out, again, if push came to shove.

Now the ‘yokels’ are pissed, no longer weak and taking it and consider the Soviet imposed demographics in Crimea and Donbass as much grand theft as we do Biden’s border policies. If those ‘Russians’ therein still prefer the culture which shipped their parents or grandparents there let them return. Putinville needs bodies and babies. Especially ethnically Russian ones. They’ll be happy there. Ukes will let them, but not with their generational loot. Let Russia annex back truly willing people, but not the land on which they’ve been squatting. Boot Putin, build a free, honest Russocentric culture. Replace years of hate and conquest with fair trade and common interests and they might have something in a couple generations.

197 posted on 10/08/2022 11:26:12 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris press events are called dodo ops)
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To: FreedomVsControl

Ethnic Russians are a majority in Crimea, because Russians have ethnically cleansed the Turkish Crimean Tatars since the 1780’s. Stalin sent many to Siberia in the 1930’s.


200 posted on 10/08/2022 12:14:34 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: FreedomVsControl

“Most people in the Crimea are ethnically Russian and have been part of Russia for 8 years now. They don’t want to be dragged back into the Ukraine, only to be ruled over by people who now hate them because of this war, that would be a disaster.”

That is not the history of Crimea.

Ukraine will not hate the residents of Crimea. They know the ‘real’ political situation of Crimea.

Semirecent history:
During the civil war that broke out in the wake of the 1917 Russian Revolution, Crimea was the scene of brutal fighting between Tsarist, Bolshevik and anarchist forces.

Following the Bolshevik victory, Crimea was made part of the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic. Then In 1944, Soviet dictator Josef Stalin deported the entire Crimean Tatar population to Central Asia and other parts of the Soviet Union.

In 1954, the Soviet Union, now under the leadership of Nikita Khrushchev, transferred Crimea to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.

After the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, Crimea became an autonomous republic part of independent Ukraine, and Moscow and Kyiv agreed to divide up the former Soviet Black Sea Fleet.

However, many “carpetbagging Russians” did come to Crimea after Crimean residents were told to leave, i.e. In 2014, I remember one Crimean resident leaving for church service across bridge was told by “Russian” military not to return. Others had their tires slashed.

HIGHLY RECOMMEND: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw613M86o5o7DfgzuUCd_PVwbOCDO472B

The invasion of Ukraine as it occurred is documented in a photo journalism series by VICE news: “Russian Roulette” with dispatches by reporter Simon Ostrovsky is a Russian-born American documentary filmmaker and journalist. Amazing behind the scenes interviews & coverage. At one point, he was captured by Russians.

He is known for his coverage of the 2014 crisis in Ukraine for VICE News and for Selfie Soldiers, a 2015 documentary in which he re-enacted a Russian soldier’s social media posts to track him to Ukraine.
Will not disappoint:

I don’t know if this link is a complete record but also found at: https://archive.org/details/Dispatch1RussiasLittleGreenMenEnterUkraineRussianRouletteInUkraine


203 posted on 10/08/2022 12:46:21 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: FreedomVsControl

The neocons will cheer lead ethnic cleansing of Russians if it ever came to that in Crimea. What a spectacle that would be. Ukazis forcing Russians out of Crimea at the point of a gun. Never gonna happen. But neocons are hypocritical nutcases


215 posted on 10/08/2022 2:03:46 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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