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Here’s why Putin won’t use nukes in Ukraine — Pass it on. (Robert X. Cringely)
Robert X. Cringely ^ | March 2022 | Robert X. Cringely

Posted on 10/02/2022 4:55:54 PM PDT by dennisw

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1 posted on 10/02/2022 4:55:54 PM PDT by dennisw
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Robert X. Cringely-—— Remember this guy. I was a PBS series he did circa 2002 (actually 1996) about Microsoft and the early computer companies

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Cringely in two documentaries based on his writings: Triumph of the Nerds: The Rise of Accidental Empires (1996) and Nerds 2.0.1: A Brief History of the Internet (1998)


2 posted on 10/02/2022 5:01:55 PM PDT by dennisw
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Yeah, I don’t see it happening either, but I have a real suspicion that Putin’s going to obliterate Kiev or something and then stand back and see what the west does.


3 posted on 10/02/2022 5:11:25 PM PDT by struggle
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To: dennisw

What Cringely wrote about the fallout from Putin using nukes on the Ukraine would fall on Russia is correct. The prevailing winds are from the west. If Putin would use nukes, then he would end up killing thousands of his own people.

The question is: Is he desperate or mad enough to do it?


4 posted on 10/02/2022 5:11:32 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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I may be completely wrong but I was under the impression that Russia had a supply of tactical nukes; suitcase bombs that I would imagine could be delivered by drones.

Would these lead to widespread radiation contamination or be more limited? These would be the kind of nukes they might imagine would not lead to Armageddon.

Hope someone can enlighten me here.


5 posted on 10/02/2022 5:26:33 PM PDT by organicchemist (Without the second amendment, the first amendment is just talk)
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To: GreyFriar

Putin is looking for a way out and he can save face and his life in the aftermath of this folly. And the West isn’t giving it to him. The only way nukes work for him is if the media can convince people that it came from Ukraine.


6 posted on 10/02/2022 5:30:38 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (DJT24)
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To: organicchemist

An EMP attack over the battlefield is possible. A high altitude nuke blast. Would we count this as a nuclear attack, or not?

I think not. We would not respond with a conventional nuclear missile, but we might do a retaliatory EMP blast ourselves over Russia.


7 posted on 10/02/2022 5:37:26 PM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: Not_Who_U_Think; All
Yup. And EMP would not kill anyone directly and leave no nuclear footprint. For EMP reference everyone should read: One Second After.
8 posted on 10/02/2022 5:57:13 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: dennisw

There have been many Robert C Cringelys. They have always been IT rumor guys, hardly expert.


9 posted on 10/02/2022 6:13:29 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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Putin’s on death’s door, so what the hell does he care? But the Russians might want to live somewhat longer.


10 posted on 10/02/2022 6:19:52 PM PDT by Theophilous Meatyard III
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

Whatever happened to good old Neutron Bombs?


11 posted on 10/02/2022 6:59:29 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: organicchemist

There was a description of a US tactical nuke that took five men to carry it via HALO drop.

Then it had to be assembled on the ground.

That was during the Vietnam War. It would have disrupted the Ho Chi Minh trail if used.

I’m not sure what the Russians have.


12 posted on 10/02/2022 7:04:58 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: dennisw

He used to have a column in InfoWorld magazine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_X._Cringely


13 posted on 10/02/2022 7:07:08 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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14 posted on 10/02/2022 7:10:13 PM PDT by bitt (<IMG SRC=' 'width=50%> )
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Let’s say Putin orders his officers to nuke a target (either at the West or Ukraine or both), I think they are not going to carry it out. They might turn on Putin instead.


15 posted on 10/02/2022 7:14:24 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: meatloaf

The smaller the nuclear weapon the tighter the tolerances have to be and the more often the weapons have to be overhauled. There minimum sizes for critical mass and hence yields of bombs. The Russians have shown the world that they aren’t very good at following through with maintenance schedules for their conventional weapon systems and logistics. I can’t imagine their nuclear weapons are any better maintained, especially as they have so many of them. The smaller weapons are more likely to be duds or dirty bombs.


16 posted on 10/02/2022 7:15:10 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: GreyFriar

There were about 100 atmospheric tests in Nevada, not counting underground tests that vented or “Plowshare” events. Radioactive elements from those tests covered most of the US east of the site to varying degrees. Yes, there were problems, but not the apocalypse envisioned here.


17 posted on 10/02/2022 7:17:07 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim ( )
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To: meatloaf; organicchemist

As early as the 1950s army Special Forces had backpack nukes.


18 posted on 10/02/2022 7:19:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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Putin isn’t going to use nukes because doing so would make Russia politically radioactive. Nobody will buy their energy and Russians will be eating grass.


19 posted on 10/02/2022 7:20:50 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: GreyFriar

Yes, prevailing winds are from the West. But Putin could presumably wait until favorable winds happen.


20 posted on 10/02/2022 7:30:11 PM PDT by AZJeep
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