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Russia WILL use its most powerful nukes to defend 'new territories' in Ukraine, Putin ally insists as he warns the West 'there is no going back'
Daily Mail ^ | 9/22/2022 | Chris Pleasance

Posted on 09/22/2022 8:17:58 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: Boogieman

Erdogan and a few others are claiming that is exactly what prompted all of this. This most recent US billions for arms to Ukraine includes missiles that can hit Moscow, they say.
(Now *who* is escalating???)

Russia needed those separatist regions to be part of Russia in order to respond with more firepower.
Most Americans are unaware that the Special Military Operations did not allow Russia to bomb civilian infrastructure.

Unfortunately last night they jumped the gun and bombed everything - water, electricity, etc.


61 posted on 09/22/2022 10:07:00 AM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: PUGACHEV

..., if only because we are not in control of Russia’s ambition.
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No one is control of anyone else’s *ambition*. Nor are ambitions in & of themselves evil until it turns out that they are directed at control/destruction/forced *extension* of others.

If *everyone* would simply leave each other alone, this would not even be a consideration.

I pray that the continued escalation & drum beat against the latest boogeyman serves to unmask the real perpetrators and their particular *ambitions*.


62 posted on 09/22/2022 10:07:04 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Midwesterner53

Reminds me of Biden.


63 posted on 09/22/2022 10:09:24 AM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: NorthMountain

We needed to take over the USSR and de-communist them! That is the only thing that will make them just like us. We need to have them all learn to speak English too and embrace a two party democratic government, just like the perfect USA. Crush them like Nazi Germany and turn them into good democrats. Then, we need to do the same thing to China. Its a brave new world! One world government like Star-Trek —and just as real.


64 posted on 09/22/2022 10:09:46 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: marcusmaximus

It would be stupid to use nukes for this. In a trying to save face move (using nukes)...he’d only make it worse.

Ukraine needs to threaten to attack Rusia’s nuclear energy if they are attacked. They need the mutual self assured destruction threat.


65 posted on 09/22/2022 10:11:34 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: reformedliberal

Well Medveded may have said it but he can be a loose cannon and I tend to ignore him.
Stay with Putin and Lavrov for the facts.


66 posted on 09/22/2022 10:12:01 AM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

But now I think we are more communist that Russia is.


67 posted on 09/22/2022 10:12:14 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: reformedliberal

neutron weapons are nukes.🤔


68 posted on 09/22/2022 10:14:45 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

That was the most bizarre and irrational post I have yet read today. I suppose it was supposed to be satire, but satire should be both clever and funny. Your post is neither.

I suggest regular reading of the Babylon Bee for an exemplary education in the true art of satire.

Have a nice day.


69 posted on 09/22/2022 10:15:15 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Poison Pill

“Russia needs to be removed from the UN Security Council for repeatedly engaging in this kind of rhetoric.”

That is what I have been thinking as an obvious punishment for Russia.


70 posted on 09/22/2022 10:16:02 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: MarMema

“This most recent US billions for arms to Ukraine includes missiles that can hit Moscow, they say.”

We have purposefully not given them missiles with that range, so as not to give Russia an excuse to escalate. But since Russia is intent on escalating anyway, we most certainly will be giving Ukraine those missiles now.

“Most Americans are unaware that the Special Military Operations did not allow Russia to bomb civilian infrastructure.”

I’m sure that is a great comfort to the Ukrainian civilians who got bombed anyway.


71 posted on 09/22/2022 10:16:10 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

You go ahead and do that, I’ll be in my bunker.🙄


72 posted on 09/22/2022 10:17:19 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Paal Gulli

You are exactly correct about access to tactical nukes under a SMO.

When the separatist regions become Russia, then war can be declared and lots more weapon access will be available.


73 posted on 09/22/2022 10:18:43 AM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: dfwgator

Several Nazi Generals found a home in the East German Army.
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And in the US, the UK and the EU.

I’m not so sure West Germany was denazified. I believe a lot of prominent industrial families went quiet, continued their business practices, consolidated, intermarried and their grandchildren/great-grandchildren are now the constituent members of the EU, Cananda and the WEF.

In the US, they became Big Pharma, Wall Street, Big Tech, the MIC and also dispersed into myriad NGOs. One difference is that the most powerful US fascists are mostly volunteers with no generational connections.

The result of failure to denazify is our current 4th Reich.


74 posted on 09/22/2022 10:19:25 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Boogieman

Not yet.

More like Donbas citizens getting killed. Ukronazis are shelling civilian centers every day killing kids and innocent civilians.

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/26459?single


75 posted on 09/22/2022 10:21:09 AM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: hardspunned

I believe the most responsible and proportional response to this is to arm Ukraine with W-80 armed Tomahawk Land Attack Cruise Missiles (TLAM). There are dozens of these in cold storage. They could be reassembled and deployed in weeks.

Restore parity. Restore détente. Restore peace.


76 posted on 09/22/2022 10:21:19 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: MarMema

“Ukronazis”

Lol, anyone using this term is basically blaring an “I WORK FOR KREMLIN” siren as far as I’m concerned. Good day to you, comrade.


77 posted on 09/22/2022 10:22:07 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: MarMema

...astounded by their freedoms, also a bit horrified by them.
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Interesting. Could you elaborate?

I find it amusing when the russophobes rail about the *dictatorship* after learning Russian citizens have personal firearms , even handguns, although I gather those are subject to somewhat more state control.


78 posted on 09/22/2022 10:24:08 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: marcusmaximus
More utter horse sh#t. The Russians don't have to use nuclear weapons nor will they in territory that will soon be part of Russia.

You're a fountain of disinformation as usual.

79 posted on 09/22/2022 10:25:07 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: MarMema

Here’s the question: will the “cabal” want to have a nuclear war? The resulting environmental destruction will be intense enough that the extinction of the human race is no longer an impossibility. And 100 million years from now, a future non-human civilization on Earth may not even find evidence of human civilization, either.


80 posted on 09/22/2022 10:26:02 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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