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‘Dark winter’ could bring utilities controlling your thermostat
The Hill ^ | 9/14/2022 | Kristin Tate

Posted on 09/14/2022 12:42:08 PM PDT by therightliveswithus

You thought you turned the thermostat down. In the Texas late summer heat, it keeps getting warmer inside. No matter how much you fiddle with the temperature, you cannot control the climate in your house. When winter comes, those with “smart thermostats” could find themselves without the means to do the same. A combination of smart devices, utility control, unreliable “green” energy, and poor planning will mean a retread of Soviet-style shortages and rationing.

For those who need the energy at the hottest and coldest times of the year, the effects will be critical. And as difficult as this summer was in Texas, the issues will be far worse in energy-strapped blue states. .

Indeed, energy failures are already accelerating while the rise of “smart” technology is often another way of giving away manual control. When a device becomes programmable, don’t always expect that it will be you doing the programming. During a heatwave in Colorado two weeks ago, thousands of utility customers were shut out from using their own thermostats. Around 22,000 customers lost the ability to change their thermostats as the temperatures in their homes ticked up to 88 degrees. Ironically, the customers opted into this loss of autonomy through their energy provider, Xcel, in exchange for a $100 sign-up rebate and $25 per year.

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KEYWORDS: energy; russia; winter
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“Ironically, the customers opted into this loss of autonomy through their energy provider, Xcel, in exchange for a $100 sign-up rebate and $25 per year.”

You can’t fix stupid.


21 posted on 09/14/2022 1:26:13 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: therightliveswithus

wrap your thermostat in those reusable freezer packs ...


22 posted on 09/14/2022 1:37:59 PM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: metmom

You got that right.

I thought the new washer was just spinning the heck out of the clothes for them to come out almost dry or dry in some spots.

Turns out it doesn’t use enough water to get them all wet on the regular setting. I have to add a bucket of water from the sink in the utility half the time.


23 posted on 09/14/2022 1:40:06 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Help America!)
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To: BenLurkin
I've seen that graphic you posted before. I love it. It is probably the best most succinct way of describing America's current dilemma.

On the plus side, when President Trump is reelected in 2024, he will be the first president since Franklin Roosevelt to win 3 presidential elections in a row.

24 posted on 09/14/2022 1:41:11 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: digger48

Greta is trying to get wood burning banned in Europe.
(wood is currently rated “carbon neutral” by Eurocrats)

Will be interesting to see how that goes in US.


25 posted on 09/14/2022 1:42:25 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Stupid government regulations.

They are idiots if they think people aren’t going to find a work around, like you did.


26 posted on 09/14/2022 1:42:31 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: therightliveswithus

One of the reasons we never got a “smart thermostat”.


27 posted on 09/14/2022 1:43:44 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: therightliveswithus

The younger generation will not put up with that. Boomers can live without electronics, no phone, no heat, no netflix, they’ll melt. They’ll talk a good game but will not sacrifice their lifestyle.


28 posted on 09/14/2022 1:45:18 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: nascarnation
Greta is trying to get wood burning banned in Europe. (wood is currently rated “carbon neutral” by Eurocrats) Will be interesting to see how that goes in US.

Well they've already mandated "clean" stoves with extra equipment, so I wouldn't be surprised if a ban is next. I thought in certain cities wood burning was illegal.

29 posted on 09/14/2022 1:46:43 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SouthernClaire
Turns out it doesn’t use enough water to get them all wet on the regular setting. I have to add a bucket of water from the sink in the utility half the time.

Good grief! Several new models of Speed Queen (my favorite) and Maytag (the "Commercial" model for homes) now have settings that fill the wash tub completely. Just like the washers from the 'old days'...

Those 2 types of washers are pricey, but worth it, IMO.

30 posted on 09/14/2022 1:46:55 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: nutmeg

Yeah. There are two settings that will do that, but it’s pretty inconvenient when I just want to wash a couple pairs of pajamas.


31 posted on 09/14/2022 1:48:59 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Help America!)
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To: SouthernClaire

That is true, unfortunately. On my Maytag Commercial (for home) washer, I suppose you would use the “Normal” setting that fills the tub half full to wash a couple pairs of PJs. You could still use one of the settings that fills the entire tub, however. There’s no setting for 3/4 full, etc.


32 posted on 09/14/2022 1:54:25 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: metmom

Yep, or the low flush toilets that don’t work so I have to flush them 3 times. That’s really saving a lot of water :P


33 posted on 09/14/2022 1:55:56 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: therightliveswithus

Finally

At least during winter I’ll win thermostat wars with my rib!


34 posted on 09/14/2022 1:56:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic)
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To: nutmeg

Ha, ha. “Normal” on mine means about 2 cups of water.

I tried the idea I’ve read so many places about wetting the clothes before starting the washer, but mine will spin the load out before it starts the wash cycle when I try it. I know it’s laughing at me.

Gonna take a brick to it one of these days, and find me a good scrub board.


35 posted on 09/14/2022 1:58:21 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Help America!)
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To: Boogieman

Thank goodness 20 yrs of fluid dynamics development has fixed that problem.
I got a new Eljer at Menards that’s a winning flush every time, only problem is it’s LOUD.


36 posted on 09/14/2022 1:58:55 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: therightliveswithus

The only way anyone can control you with smart tech is if you let them. Every “smart” control can be manipulated. Don’t let yourself become a slave. I’m just an “under educated” technician and can always fix those fancy “smart” things to do what I want.


37 posted on 09/14/2022 2:09:32 PM PDT by JimDaniels1867 (Gun Control: Better to have and not need than to need and not have)
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To: crusty old prospector

I’ve spent 50 years cutting hundreds of thousands of trees, piling them up in barn sized piles, and throwing used oil on them, and torching them. Miss the days of throwing in truckloads of tires to get them them going good

She already hates me


38 posted on 09/14/2022 2:11:08 PM PDT by digger48
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To: SouthernClaire
Wetting clothes before starting the washer?? I don't understand that.

You may want to look into one of the top-load washers below. Yeah, they're pricey, but - I think they are worth it.

We have the Maytag Commercial washer in our house in Connecticut - we plan to sell this house soon, and we won't be taking this washer with us.

In our house in South Carolina (which we will permanently move to "soon"), we have the Speed Queen T5. I'm happy with both washers, although I admit I like the Speed Queen better.

Maytag 3.5 cu. ft. Commercial-Grade Residential Agitator Top-Load Washer

Speed Queen TC5 Top Load Washer

39 posted on 09/14/2022 2:19:36 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: Boogieman

Utility companies will soon learn that if they turn down the thermostat, people will just plug in space heaters

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Are window unit air conditioners still on the market?


40 posted on 09/14/2022 2:28:28 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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