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House Incumbents Being Ousted at Record Rates; It's Worse for Republicans
msn.com ^ | 9/1/22 | Nick Reynolds

Posted on 09/01/2022 11:00:03 AM PDT by cotton1706

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To: tbewin

I wouldn’t be forcing her to do anything. I would simply be restraining her from killing an innocent child, which society already does every day in a million other circumstances. And no, it would not be “just because”.


181 posted on 09/01/2022 2:08:24 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

🤷‍♂️


182 posted on 09/01/2022 2:08:43 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: Boogieman

This abortion debate is going nowhere...you are totally disregarding what’s best for the mother!


183 posted on 09/01/2022 2:09:33 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: Osage Orange

Someone is repeating themselves.


184 posted on 09/01/2022 2:11:57 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: tbewin

I have had an abortion. The result was a dead baby and infertility. Abortion is never what’s best for the mother.


185 posted on 09/01/2022 2:13:36 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: tbewin

“you are totally disregarding what’s best for the mother!”

Well, what is “best for the mother” is arguable. Having a clean conscience and not murdering her own offspring may in fact be better for the mother than what she might want to do in the heat of the moment when she has just suffered a trauma.

But I would counter also that you are completely disregarding what is best for the child, as there is no logical argument that death is in general better than life, since anyone that argues such a thing would be quickly diagnosed with some mental disorder.

So if there is in fact a direct conflict between what is “best for the mother” and “best for the child”, it must be resolved, and those kinds of conflicts, where the rights of individuals collide are generally resolved based on certain well understood principles. One of the key ones is “choose the alternative which does the least harm to both parties”. In this case, abortion is ruled out, since one party is permanently harmed in an irreparable way, while without abortion, the party that might claim harm cannot claim either permanent or irreparable harm.


186 posted on 09/01/2022 2:14:28 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: tbewin

If you can look at a 3D or 4D ultrasound and call what you see a clump of cells your lookers are broken.


187 posted on 09/01/2022 2:15:52 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: .30Carbine

Ok, then tell your story to more women, it may impact their way of thinking. In the meantime...we have an election to win against a fired up opposition that is extremely pro-life as are many independents...it’s the reality. We can either spike the ball on abortion and get our a$$es handed to us or realize that may make November harder and work that much more to win!


188 posted on 09/01/2022 2:16:07 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: .30Carbine

Lots of women do...they also vote! Do you want to win elections because we cannot do it with just conservative people, there isn’t enough of us!


189 posted on 09/01/2022 2:17:11 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: tbewin

pro-choice i meant


190 posted on 09/01/2022 2:18:14 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: tbewin

“...side with us...”

I can forgive you for not understanding us, and I really don’t care about your opinion one way or another. However, you are certainly not helping your cause with your insults to us.


191 posted on 09/01/2022 2:26:18 PM PDT by BDParrish (God called, He said He'd take you back!)
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To: BDParrish

Really, you are not reading this whole thread are you? Instead of rational debate I have been called names (I’ve been called a homosexual by a few people on here) on here and insulted left and right. Only a few of you put together coherent arguments. Guess what? You dish it and will return it back. I dont subscribe to hive-mindedness and people on here want that! You people picked the fight...not me! My original point was don’t take the election for granted as lots of people are pissed about the abortion ruling!


192 posted on 09/01/2022 2:32:04 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: BDParrish

And for someone who doesn’t care about my opinion, you took the time to reply. Either support your Republican candidate or don’t. The choice is yours. If you don’t the Dem’s will have near record turnout this year, I guarantee it! We will need every vote.


193 posted on 09/01/2022 2:34:58 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: tbewin

Do you want me to sell my soul to gain the world? What would that profit?


194 posted on 09/01/2022 2:40:53 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: .30Carbine

You won’t have anything to sell if the Democrats win.


195 posted on 09/01/2022 2:41:41 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: .30Carbine

They will take everything from every one of us who isnt in their little rich clique!


196 posted on 09/01/2022 2:42:24 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: tbewin

No one can take your soul. But you can certainly sell it, or give it away. Think about that.


197 posted on 09/01/2022 2:42:56 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: cotton1706

This is the revolution as designed by our founding fathers.

the 2nd is backup.


198 posted on 09/01/2022 2:44:01 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: .30Carbine

I don’t care about feelings or emotions. I’m approaching this logically!


199 posted on 09/01/2022 2:49:12 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: cotton1706

Yep they’ll be digging out the old Bolshevik flags again.


200 posted on 09/01/2022 3:01:13 PM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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