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To: Oak007

Ben Shapiro said polls show Dems will votes Dems, we will vote Trump. That won’t change.

What is terrifying is independents are polling 4 to 1 against Trump.

I’m afraid the low info voters and independents have been propagandized too far to come back to reality.


9 posted on 08/31/2022 8:14:24 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: Phoenix8
Unfortunately, it's not just propaganda. Trump is hurting his own cause with these tweet storms. The truth - like it or not - is that most independents don't want to hear about overturning 2020 election. I think there are some Trump supporters out there who think they just need to keep repeating that message, and sooner or later people will understand. That's just not the way it works. People have tuned out the substance of those complaints, and now just don't want to hear anymore about it.

Independents may well be willing to listen to election reforms moving forward, but they are not interested in the past. And Trump's obsession with that is leading many of them to conclude that he's not fit for office.

Prior to being elected in 1980, Reagan had run on privatizing Social Security, and eliminating or returning to the states Medicare and Medicaid. He learned after he was elected that there was not sufficient support to do that, so rather than beating his head against an unpopular topic and hurting his popularity, he rightly dropped it. He was right on the substance of the issue, but that's not enough. It does no good to waste political Capital that could be used on other issues on an issue that has no chance of succeeding.

Trump does not appear willing to accept that reality, and it is unfortunate.

27 posted on 08/31/2022 8:34:33 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Phoenix8
"What is terrifying is independents are polling 4 to 1 against Trump."

Not even remotely true.

And really the damn shame of it is that this kind of information is out there, it's current, it's complete, and it's free.


46 posted on 08/31/2022 9:03:01 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Phoenix8

Maybe, but Independents are very much planning on voting Republican for Midterms 2022.


135 posted on 09/02/2022 4:24:52 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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