[zeestephen]

Re: "They don't even have any data that the death rate is higher among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated..."

I disagree - almost 90% of Americans over age 18 have had at least one Covid vax, so the math is pretty obvious, and if the un-vaxxed are dying in larger numbers, that would be headline news everywhere.

I do not take sides in this argument, but, "Deaths from All Causes" have conspicuously increased for younger age groups in many of the wealthy western culture countries.

[semimojo]

...if the un-vaxxed are dying in larger numbers, that would be headline news everywhere.

There's overwhelming evidence that the Covid death rate is higher in the unvaccinated.

Actual data from studies and surveillance.

I've seen nothing similar showing a higher death rate from any cause in the vaccinated.