Posted on 08/08/2022 8:05:26 AM PDT by tanstaafl.72555
That’s not the convention of states
Everything you’ve mentioned is already in effect, except that only Congress has ever proposed an Amendment. Odd that you think a 3/4 majority of the states couldn’t do better and is something to fear.
of course
On second thought, maybe this whole Article 5 convention idea is a great idea. We could introduce an amendment to take back power from the federal government and give it to the states.
One possible amendment could say something like....”Any right that is not explicitly given to the Federal Government by the Constitution should be left to the states and the people.”
That would totally be a checkmate against the big government socialists.
When the deep state globalist oligarchs tried to control us through federal legislation or regulation, we could repeat the magic words.... “Any right that is not explicitly given to the Federal Government by the Constitution should be left to the states and the people.”...and then the bad guys would disappear like Harry Potter doing a spell on the Dementors.
Don’t be coy. You’re not confused. You know what I meant.
Article V lets the entire Constitution be rewritten.
They could even leave a fifth article out of a rewritten constitution completely.
I’d rather not fix what is not broken.
If s/he were to do “something else” then the state could recall the delegate and revoke his/her delegated powers OR could simply not vote to confirm whatever mess this “runaway convention” came up with.
Have you ever heard of Michael Farris?
But there is no enumerated constitutional basis to limit the scope of an Article V convention once called, even if the individual state petitions state such limited scope under threat of withdrawing their petition if subjects other than the enumerated ones are considered. Saying it doesn't necessarily make it so.
Once such an Article V convention was called, all hell could break loose by Blue states proposing all sorts of nonsense that per the constitution would have to be considered by all of the states without sunset.
I assume you meant hijacked by the blue states.
Not really, the agenda has to be approved in each State House, if enough agree, then the convention is convened, the vote is taken, the matters pass or fail. End of story.
Time to repeal the 17th Amendment and eliminate the Senior Executive Service.
Two Amendments, if passed will restore the US to a Republic it once was.
That would be a disaster... yes fractional reserves banking is not wonderful, but having a gold standard was not working either
Look man, there is no provision that Congress cannot attempt to rewrite the Constitution either. That is such a specious argument that I am having difficulty understanding why you would bring it up.
Are you saying that the founding fathers made a mistake by putting Article V in there? It is what it sounds like to me.
The 17th Amendment has to go.. its corrupted the Judiciary, given power to the parties and lobbyists
LOL. Wasn't working how? Didn't allow the rapid expansion of government spending and debt? Didn't allow the rise of financialization? Kept inflation low and reduced thievery of American's wages and savings?
Term limits give the bureaucracy the power... deep state on Crack. No thank you
Exactly.🤔
Below is an excerpt from the letter to the state legislatures asking them to approve a Convention os States. It states the only three amendments that are included in the current Convention of States. Once the proposed amendments are accepted by the required number of states, nothing can be added at any time to the approved convention Amendments. The link at the end of this post is the entire letter sent by the Convention of States to state legislatures. Unfortunately one state turned it down by one legislature. I want these three Amendments and am working to get a Convention of States to bring it about because our Federal Gavernment members will never do it.
“We hereby call on our elected state legislators to exercise their authority under Article V of the U.S. Constitution to propose amendments that Congress would never propose - placing fiscal restraints on the federal government, imposing term limits on federal officials, and limiting the power, scope, and jurisdiction of the federal government.
Nineteen of the 34 necessary states have already exercised their constitutional authority to call for an amendment-proposing convention to restrain our out-of-control federal government.
We, the undersigned, hereby urge the remaining states to rise to defend our Republic against the growing threat of a tyrannical federal government and reclaim their rightful constitutional powers by calling for a Convention of States” https://conventionofstates.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3a21cd3d06284c105dbd92fee&id=aee2c395cb&e=53097828af.
JP Morgan 2x financially bailed out the Federal Gov , hence the 16th and 17th Amendments
Fractional reserve banking changed the game by allowing the overall economy to grow significantly, it’s not perfect but our over all economy would be way smaller if on a gold standard, as would the overall standard of living as I understand it. It’s not an easy circumstance, arguments can be made on either side to support the position.
Please examine your statement, or wherever you heard it, carefully.
How does the Federal Reserve, a central planning agency, with the absolute power of money creation, help an economy grow faster? Why is not Bolivia then an economic powerhouse?
No, they did not make a mistake putting Article V in there. But it may also be a mistake invoking Article V without a compelling national crisis forcing it.
It is all well and good to claim to limit the scope of an Article V convention to only specific subjects, but there is nothing in the constitution that provides for such limitations. At best it would come down to a Supreme Court ruling on the matter.
There is also nothing in the Constitution that would prevent Congress from setting up the specific rules and procedures of an Article V convention such as who would chair such a convention, how amendment proposals are presented to the convention body, whether the convention body must vote on each proposed amendment before it is formally adopted and presented to the states for ratification, etc.
There just might be a reason why Article V has never been invoked in the 234 years since the ratification of the Constitution. That reason is that there is enough uncertainty in the process to keep 2/3 of the states from petitioning for one.
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