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Russia to quit International Space Station 'after 2024'
Space Daily ^ | Jul 26, 2022 | AFP Staff Writers

Posted on 07/26/2022 7:16:41 AM PDT by Salman

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To: chajin
I wonder how much the post-USSR Russians have been able to grown their own, or if their technology is lagging.

It was good enough to 'shuttle' US too and fro.

21 posted on 07/26/2022 7:43:39 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!!)
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To: allendale
Name five things that the international space station accomplished.

Here's 20, but I really can't say if it's any better than inventing tang and the space pen. https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/news/iss-20-years-20-breakthroughs

22 posted on 07/26/2022 7:45:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/news/iss-20-years-20-breakthroughs


23 posted on 07/26/2022 7:45:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Salman
In the late 80s, very early in my career as an electrical engineer, I worked on what was then known as "Space Station Freedom". As the cold war was still on, it was entirely a U.S. effort. I moved on and shortly after the cold war ended.

Then it became the "International Space Station" (ISS) because we and the Ruskies were going to be BFF. For a considerable period of time the neo-Soviets (excuse me "Russians") had a monopoly on launching personnel to the ISS. Fortunately SpaceX can now do the job and we call tell the neo-Soviets to go pound sand.

NASA and SpaceX Complete Certification of First Human-Rated Commercial Space System

Meanwhile, although they deny it, the legacy US rocket launch crowd United Launch Alliance (Lockheed Martin Space and Boeing Defense, Space & Security) and Northrop Grumman are in trouble because they've been buying rocket engines from the neo-Soviets.

Russian space chief says Russia will no longer sell rocket engines to the US

24 posted on 07/26/2022 7:49:03 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Blennos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Crew-3

Crew 4-9 are upcoming plus there’s Axios which are private funded

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Dragon_2#Crew_Dragon_flights


25 posted on 07/26/2022 7:52:37 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Salman

Don’t let the door...


26 posted on 07/26/2022 7:53:04 AM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: Pollard

Yup—private space flight is the future—if they fully decouple from NASA.

NASA has become a woke zombie.


27 posted on 07/26/2022 7:56:18 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: allendale

Well, it could be used as a practice target I guess.


28 posted on 07/26/2022 7:57:09 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: Salman

Of interest.
Take it for what it is worth given each side, to include the Western/Anglo/NATO, has their own Ministry’s of Truth:

‘Exclusions And Sanctions Help ‘Enemies’ To Build Their Own Capabilities’
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/exclusions-and-sanctions-help-enemies-to-build-their-own-capabilities.html#more


29 posted on 07/26/2022 8:01:14 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Salman

SpaceX has the Crew Dragon which has completed four manned missions with a 5th going up at the end of September. Boeing’s CST-100 Starliner completed its OFT last month and will be joining the rotation with Crew Dragon near the end of this year. With two operational American capsules capable of reaching ISS, we are no longer reliant on Russia to shuttle our crews. Only issue is the Russians pull out in 2024 is the station keeping function provided by the Progress capsules in adjusting the ISS orbit. Neither Dragon nor Starliner are rated for this function but I do believe the Cygnus capsule has some capability to perform this function and NASA has ordered five more of them which would take them through 2026.


30 posted on 07/26/2022 8:03:53 AM PDT by DoubleNickle
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To: Pollard

Thanks. Funny that someone would claim that only Russia is equipped to regularly transport astronauts to the ISS. SpaceX has certainly as good a capability, if not better, than the Russians. SpaceX brings back the booster. They have significantly lower launch costs than the Russians.


31 posted on 07/26/2022 8:05:11 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: Salman

Unscrew the Russian half of the ISS and dump it on the Russian side of the Russia / Ukraine border.


32 posted on 07/26/2022 8:05:23 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: Blennos

33 posted on 07/26/2022 8:07:43 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Salman

“As of this writing, only Russia is set up to transport people to and from the ISS on a regular basis, though this is supposed to change soon.”

As of JAN 2022, SpaceX has regular cargo and manned service to IIS at a fixed cost per flight for 2023 lacking any incidents or political payback words musk. A good number of flights that were scheduled for non NASA flights can be provided on top of man rated SpaceX bosters to nasa if boeing project loses man rating per NASA.

If boeing gets their act together on manned flights there is 2 vendors to NASA with seats. 3 vendors for seats was putting pricing pressure on Russia on top of different political pressures.


34 posted on 07/26/2022 8:12:40 AM PDT by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: Locomotive Breath
Russian space chief says Russia will no longer sell rocket engines to the US

BFD. We only use(d) Russian engines (The once excellent, but now nearly obsolete RD-180) on the Atlas-V, and then only as a favor to Russia (so their rocket engineers would have something to do other than work for Iran and North Korea). Atlas-V is now semi-retired. No new rockets will be built, and the remaining 22 have all been both built and sold. Russia can keep their engines.

SLS, if it ever launches, will do so with American engines.

The current workhorse for both manned and unmanned launches is the all American (and private sector-ish) Falcon 9.

35 posted on 07/26/2022 8:14:29 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Blennos

And crew 4 in April 2021.

Also the Demo mission took two astronauts to the ISS.

That’s five SpaceX crewed launches to the ISS.

The next crewed launch is scheduled for September with a cosmonaut!

Try to keep up people. ;^)


36 posted on 07/26/2022 8:14:59 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: Salman

The Space Station is a huge waste of money. Yes it does science. That same science can be done at a fraction of the cost with orbital packages that are not manned. The same can be said for going back to the moon.

Until we can lift large payloads to orbit cheaply this is a bad return on the cost of science.


37 posted on 07/26/2022 8:31:28 AM PDT by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: Pollard

A vision I never tire of seeing. Indeed, one of the great milestones of human scientific history.


38 posted on 07/26/2022 8:41:03 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: TheDon

Thanks for the update. SpaceX sends up rockets with such frequency that indeed it is hard to keep up. But I never miss one of their launches. Didn’t they recently accomplish three mission in the space of 2 days?


39 posted on 07/26/2022 8:45:57 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: cpdiii

“That same science can be done at a fraction of the cost with orbital packages that are not manned. The same can be said for going back to the moon.”

Correct.

This is an artifact of government funded projects that require propaganda efforts to get public support for funding.

Private space companies can make moves that make economic sense.

Oh, and btw, this is a great web site that you will not like—but there is a lot to learn there:

https://www.aulis.com/investigation.htm


40 posted on 07/26/2022 8:47:15 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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