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To: achilles2000

conservapedia?

Here is a gem!:

“On March 7, 2022 Russian state media announced that half of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) - 120,000 soldiers - were trapped in the Donbas cauldron.[90] The Donbas cauldron was confirmed closed on March 14, 2022.[91] By March 27, 2022, it was estimated that close to half of this force has already been killed, wounded, taken prisoner, or probably accounting for by far most, deserted and fled.”

So ukraine has lost half its army in March and still the war rages on!!


94 posted on 07/20/2022 8:30:10 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince

“Donbas cauldron was confirmed closed”

And yet Russia still doesnt control all of the Donbas!


95 posted on 07/20/2022 8:31:18 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince

Golly, it can’t be right because the Neocons/Neolibs deny it. You might be amazed to know that the UFA formation in the Donbass is not half the UFA, which it would have to be if the the UFA losses in Donbass mean the “ukraine has lost half its army”. According to one MSM source, the (prewar) total of forces available to Ukraine is about 600,000 (about 250k active, 50k militia, 290k reserves). The Ukraine has been constantly funneling new troops into the Donbass, and it’s now fielding the very young, the old, and several thousand women, in addition to whatever prime age men they can still find. The UFA losses are staggering, which is why they are scraping the bottom of the barrel and prohibiting men 18-60 from leaving the country.

I would agree that you can find different reasonable estimates of UFA losses, but what is clear is that the UFA has been, and is being, ground to pieces. That is NOT a good thing. Most of the UFA consists of regular people (not Azov, Right Sector, OUN, etc.), but they are being used as cannon fodder for political purposes. They know it, and that’s why desertion rates are high.

BTW, do you know why the Russians have had the operational tempo they have been following? (Hint: it’s not because the UFA has been inflicting massive casualties)


97 posted on 07/20/2022 9:14:38 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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