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NATO in ‘Secret Consultations’ to end Ukraine Crisis
theinteldrop.com ^ | July 9, 2022

Posted on 07/10/2022 4:02:16 PM PDT by elpadre

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To: Mariner

I’m nearly certain Russia doesn’t need that.

But Ukraine and NATO are desperate for just that.

European countries are on the brink of devastation and political upheaval.


LOL. The GDP of the EU and Great Britain is $20 trillion dollars. They can squash Russia ($1 trillion GDP) like a bug and find other gas stations if they wish.


41 posted on 07/10/2022 6:54:15 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

“They can squash Russia ($1 trillion GDP) like a bug and find other gas stations if they wish.”

WHEN?

HOW?

Are you saying they can seize Russian territory?

Are you saying they can defeat the Russian military in the field?

How do they counter Russian nukes?

And how do they accomplish any of that in Ukraine?

They don’t.

Russia will possess any part of Ukraine they wish.

Ukraine will never touch it again.

NATO will not intervene militarily.

European NATO countries will soon surrender to their political reality and look for a deal that Russia will accept. And any such deal will partition Ukraine, formally ceding what Russia has already taken.

And NATO/Ukraine will announce Ukraine will never be in NATO and NATO troops/forces will never be in Ukraine.

Because NOBODY in the west is willing to engage a military with 7,000 nukes to force them to do anything.

Nobody.


42 posted on 07/10/2022 7:34:47 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: elpadre
They recommended a Reagan-style ‘peace through strength’ approach of military and economic pressure to force “the aggressor” to the table

That's impossible. All the strength is on the Russia side. There is, justifiably, no support from the American people to get involved militarily. Ukraine is losing, by its own admission, a 1000 troops a day.

It's just another example of doubling down on failure.

43 posted on 07/10/2022 7:38:49 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: trailboss800

Maybe NATO has been keeping it a secret in the West, but there is another party to the talks and keeping a secret does not benefit them. Hence, this story. Maybe???


44 posted on 07/10/2022 7:49:52 PM PDT by elpadre (W )
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To: elpadre

that Europe should start by regaining control of the narrative on the Ukraine crisis...

translation:we need to figure a way out of this mess without the U.S in the room.


45 posted on 07/10/2022 8:19:08 PM PDT by jimjohn (We're at war, people. Start acting like it.)
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To: jimjohn

Biden and Co. can only make things worse.


46 posted on 07/10/2022 8:20:35 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Mariner

Bingo.


47 posted on 07/10/2022 11:10:43 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Rural_Michigan

Russia has been invading Europe for 1000 years.


48 posted on 07/11/2022 4:07:39 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: libertylover

Yeah, but who’d be the boogeyman responsible for $5 gas, inflation, recession after Biden gets his Nobel Peace Prize nomination for ending the Ukrainian war?


49 posted on 07/11/2022 4:21:31 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Ge0ffrey

Months ago, I suggested that the only way Biden could succeed as President would be to engage in a war. I had Iran specifically in mind

Now you say Biden’s war is really between Ukraine and Russia.

Does that really qualify as a President saving war?

All in all, I think not. The American people are not engaged pro nor con.

But....... we’ll see


50 posted on 07/11/2022 4:35:26 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: Miguk

The Russian money and other assets sequestered in Europe and here will be used to rebuild Ukraine. The Russian sanctions will not e lifted until some arrangement is made to for Russia pay for the war damages outside the separatist regions


51 posted on 07/11/2022 4:40:35 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: familyop

Based on my calculations the end of the year is about time for the European economy to enter cascading collapse.
It probably makes sense for Russia to start negotiating after it takes place, not before.


52 posted on 07/11/2022 6:00:41 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: jimwatx

My bet is that after Europe starts crumbling this winter due to a lack of Russian energy, Russia is going to make moves in the Third World to cut their access completely. If Euros are going to pick a military option they’d see in Africa exactly the same thing they planned for the Russians in Ukraine, except it is going to work this time. It sucks to be European. Their time is running out.


53 posted on 07/11/2022 6:06:14 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: bert

What damage outside the separatists regions? I don’t see a lot of it. What do you you think is going to stay of Ukraine before settlement? If you think Russia is going to pay a thing you are dead wrong. The rule is that others are paying to Russia.


54 posted on 07/11/2022 6:08:20 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Bull shit. Your lies are a terrible misuse of Free Republic Bandwidth.

Be gone russian troll


55 posted on 07/11/2022 6:10:28 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: bert

What damage outside the separatist areas? What do you count as separatists areas? Is Odessa and Zaporozhiye included? Putin has just signed a bill on express Russian citizenship for Odessa residents where it is already listed not as part of Ukraine. What do you think it means? Get real at once.


56 posted on 07/11/2022 6:13:34 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Yeah I think Europe is screwed, the US jumped the gun with its proxy war with Russia before alternative supplies for energy were in place. Just incredibly poor planning all around, and it’s going to cost them.


57 posted on 07/11/2022 6:20:15 AM PDT by jimwatx
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