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1 posted on 07/06/2022 3:34:59 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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It helps to have the TV on all day as well. Or maybe video games. Something that trains you to solve problems with violence.


35 posted on 07/06/2022 4:50:55 PM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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Not helping the women either.


37 posted on 07/06/2022 4:54:11 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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Fill them up with pharmaceuticals, then tell the earth ends in 8 years and they will all die because of the weather.

These leftist know exactly what they’re doing.


42 posted on 07/06/2022 5:02:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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“Eric Harris, the columbine killer was on Zoloft and ... “

Interesting. Thought provoking. Would like to hear from some psychologists on this.


43 posted on 07/06/2022 5:06:26 PM PDT by cymbeline
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Epigenetic plus these drugs at earlier and earlier ages are bound to cause problems along with the institutionalization of kids. We know the hormones in a mothers womb can have effects on of genes.. any real hormone imbalance can do this.
Genes change in response to their environment. Their environment can be many things including these chemicals, the chemicals produces by institutionalizing (deindividuation).
I have also had a woman tell me her youngest son never took a childhood vaccine and had none of the problems her oldest two sons do.
Back to nature vs. unthreatening, turns out it’s both.
I can say I have seen very high levels of thc in neonate for bloods over the last 5 years. We only test a small fraction of these babies that are born.
The babies bathed in pot for 9 months should be in elementary school… maybe middle school in Colorado.


44 posted on 07/06/2022 5:10:15 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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Personally, I think the social acceptance of recreational drug use has contributed more than the use of prescribed psychoactive drug use.

Aside: Note I am not blindly defending prescribed psychoactive drug use. I think in some cases it helps. However, handing them out willy-nilly to K12 males because it’s easier to just apply a blanket diagnosis of ADHD to them then try and control a classroom is what I object to!

Back to the point I was going to make about recreational drug. I think in the spectrum of psychological societal behavior in child-teen-adult populations there’s a threshold where on the right-hand side going right ranges from barely coping with life to fully engaged and life answers to you. On the left-hand side moving left there’s almost coping to psychotic. I think recreational drug use shifts population numbers to the left by moving that threshold\crossover point to the right. In other words, it increases the population of those with “behavioral problems”. Throw in prescribed psychotropic drugs for behavior and the problem is inadvertently made worse. I have no data to back up my argument, the working hypothesis just comes anecdotal stories and personal observation.


46 posted on 07/06/2022 5:19:38 PM PDT by Reily
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During the late 1950s and 1960s mass shootings by young males was rare of not unheard of. Guns and ammunition could readily be bought with few questions asked. During my high school years guns were in many cars in the school parking lot and this would have been true in many parts of the country. Psychotropic drugs were unknown.

Tucker has a good point. Young people are being over medicated. Starting in the 1990s every kid with fidgets was quickly and often perfunctorly diagnosed with ADHD and put on Ritalin. Now other drugs are being passed out like popcorn.

There needs to be serious research into the possible connection between the use of these drugs in young people and the rash of mass shootings and suicides


53 posted on 07/06/2022 6:37:53 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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I have had some personal experience with Cymbalta which is a SNRi I believe which is close to the SSRI family (Zolof for ex) that Tucker mentions as a possible cause for young men becoming violent. There are Internet groups where people seek help to get off Cymbalta because of ruined lives. Many different reactions to this drug but mostly the medical community will ignore any adverse reactions. Doctors are told it can not be the drug.

My example would be people taking Cymbalta for pain become depressed and suicidal and then find life is a living hell when they get severe withdrawal.


55 posted on 07/06/2022 7:27:08 PM PDT by DazedVet (Self esteem cannot be taught in school but comes from actual achievement.)
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Drugs only tell part of the story. I keep wondering about these boys' parents -- if they themselves are a bit off. Especially the mother, who might have borderline tendencies.

My older brother was a psychopath who hated our mother. He had rages and sexual obsessions. Had he not dropped dead of a heart attack, I was convinced he would have gotten hold of a gun and shot up a place, especially a place with a lot of women. Might he have benefited by medication? I really doubt it.

"Pills don't equal skills." Medication might help regulate moods or help with focus, but they don't instill conscience, rationality, or common sense. Or alleviate trauma from poor parenting.

57 posted on 07/06/2022 7:38:01 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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So much trust is placed in doctors, drugs, the pharmaceutical manufacturers, psychiatrists, psychologists etc..... some of them may be smart but they all knew squat about the brainbox as little as a few years ago. That alone tells one all they need to know about just how uncharted the waters are that they experimenting in.

Our oldest son was a very busy young boy who was incredibly energetic, disruptive, compulsive and so on. When in Grade 2 (or was it 3?), the teachers were pleading with us to get him to a child psychologist and so we did. In about 15 minutes of time, the analysis was over and we walked out of there with a prescription for Ritalin. We of course were already doing our own research and there was no way we were planning on giving Ritalin to him and so we sat on it while thinking through options and what we wanted to do next.

We lived in a university town that had a great psychological research department with a great director and we somehow managed to get our son in to see them for an assessment. This was no small undertaking.... the assessment involved three separate visits that were approximately 6 hours in length each. In the end, we were given a 10 page report, a closeout interview with them as to what they determined and they even came to the school with us to meet the teacher and principal to show them what changes they needed to make in the classroom... changes that not only improved the learning environment for our son but for all the kids. There were also some interviews later so that they could follow up how things were going.

In the end, it was all about making adjustments to the environment around our son so that his brainbox wasn’t constantly being put into an overloaded condition with visual and auditory information that was driving him crazy processing it all. There were no drugs involved.... and what caught my immediate attention in the report was that they determined that for our son, Ritalin would have had the completely WRONG effect than intended and it was exactly the wrong thing to prescribe.

Our son thrived immensely from there... became a champion long distance runner, finished top of his high school class, finished in the top 5 in his university graduating class of 100 (mechanical engineering), speaks 5 or so languages and is currently doing missionary work overseas with his wife and two boys.

I have no doubt that what turns young boys (mostly boys) into killers is very complicated but drugs are no more of a solution than banning all guns is a solution. The problems go much deeper than this. As one example, it does not go unnoticed that virtually all of the killers come from severely broken homes.... sorry to have to tell that to all you divorced folks but I don’t think this is in dispute and like all things where one is starting from a deficit position, this better be recognized and addressed by single parents.

And never forget the promise of James 5:16 “Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.”

How many of the killers grew up in homes where their parents took James 5 seriously?


61 posted on 07/06/2022 7:57:26 PM PDT by hecticskeptic ( )
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Not just drugs.

Did anyone else notice he had the same smug smirk as Snoop Dog?


62 posted on 07/06/2022 7:59:18 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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imho the driver for psychiatric drugs is sugar.


68 posted on 07/07/2022 9:20:09 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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That’s copout statement. Kids are never disciplined then get drugs to compensate for their bad behaviors. That’s doesn’t work, so liberals like Tucker blame the drugs.


69 posted on 07/07/2022 10:18:06 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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