Ukraine: Russian-backed separatists claim Lysychansk is surrounded

Deutsche Welle ^ | July 2, 2022 | Deutsche Welle staff

[AmericaFirst101]

Ok. I haven’t looked at detailed reports. Heard someone mention Bakhmut but I guess they were wrong.

[Cathi]

Resident
⚡️⚡️⚡️#Inside
Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President is urgently preparing a statement on the withdrawal of troops from Lysichansk, due to the complete encirclement and capture of part of the city. Zaluzhny has already expressed his dissatisfaction with Zelensky that the delay in the decision to retreat led to the encirclement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the loss of heavy equipment, which was brought to Lisichansk last month. The political center retreated and told the military that it was necessary to repeat the track with Severodonetsk and declare a controlled withdrawal of troops, despite the fact that the city had been in a dense encirclement for two days.

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Lots of videos on the internet showing Ukrainian troops WALKING out (no heavy equipment) Definitely not an organized retreat.

[AmericaFirst101]

Thanks for the information.

[BobL]

“As for the Uke propaganda...we’ll know how would spin the events before long, but likely as a strategic regrouping of forces on the way toward Moscow.”

LOL, but their ‘strategic withdraw’ or whatever they tell the media to call it under non-stop shelling and mortar fire - they should have left 2 weeks early while they still had a relatively safe road.

So, now, even less well-trained Ukrainian troops to fight, and a higher percentage of off-the-street types that spend 3 weeks in Poland before being given a rifle and sent to the front lines to ‘hold off the Russians’.

[AmericaFirst101]

Just my opinion, but I think the Ukraine troops are getting pretty tired of being used as props for political posturing.

People are paying with their lives so people far from the front lines can act tough and stall.

That might work when morale is high. I don’t think the morale is high for the Ukraine forces in the southeast of the nation right now.

[dila813]

Well, couldn’t withdraw if surrounded, so that’s a lie, and Ukraine’s strategy is to defend, bleed the Russians, withdrawal....repeat and repeat

Look for a weakness, attack then retreat till Russia is overextended then snip off the rear. Worked on North, jury out in East...watching

[silverleaf]

I think it is beyond calling these Luhansk Republic forces “ Russian backed separatists”

They’ve turned into a pretty big army of former Ukrainians and are never going to resubmit to Kiev

[Cathi]

They are beyond demoralized.

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This should interest you.

https://t.me/s/azmilitary11/9147

Bakhmut: a new phase in the battle for Donbass

One of the most popular questions during the special military operation boils down to the banal “Why aren’t our troops advancing on settlement N, since from there it’s a direct road to victory?”

In both Popasna and Bakhmut, such a question has been raised more than once. And instead of a thousand explanations, we decided to make a video which demonstrates what is happening.

Today, AFU are trying with all their might to hold back the Russian offensive. Reinforcements are being constantly sent near Bakhmut, while artillery and tactical aviation of the enemy are attacking the advancing units.

Wagner’s PMC assault units are breaking through the defensive lines to the east of Bakhmut. It is likely that they will be tasked with the capture of the vital population centre.

Bakhmut itself is difficult to defend effectively because of its geographical location. The city is located in a lowland area along the riverbed. But there will definitely be no easy assault.

Watch our video to find out why.

#Bakhmut #Russia #Ukraine #video
@rybar

[AmericaFirst101]

I agree. Just posting what the article said.

[AmericaFirst101]

Thanks

[Cathi]

Douglas MacGregor
3 days ago (edited)
More than 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers were killed near Lisichansk, some officers were captured, according to the assistant to the head of the LPR Ministry of Internal Affairs. Damn 🦾

Meanwhile, the western leaders are busy talking sh*t and satisfying themselves 🤣 Russia is a country of actions, not a country of words

[mvonfr]

No, they were right -- about retreating to Bakhmut (== Artemovsk) and trying to make a new defense line there.

Because if they don't Slavyansk and Kramotorsk -- which are the largest cities in DNR under Uke control -- become immediate target for the Russians. And their liberation will be the end of the Donbass battle.

Now, how successful they can the Ukes be with this new line is not clear, and it is not really clear where the line will be drawn.

Below is the current map.. Bahmut/Artemovsk is just outside in the low left corner. Two large cities in the reddish (Russian) part of the map are Severodonetsk and Lysychansk.

The large city in the greenish corner of the map is Seversk. Are the Ukes going to try to defend it or not? -- this is the immediate question. Because if not, Bahmut to the SW and Slavyansk/Kramatorsk are next.

[mvonfr]

So, now, even less well-trained Ukrainian troops to fight, and a higher percentage of off-the-street types that spend 3 weeks in Poland before being given a rifle and sent to the front lines to ‘hold off the Russians’.

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LOL. Those who spent 3 weeks in Poland are the trained ones.

One Ukrainian soldier that surrendered to the Russians reported 4 day training with two trips to the firing range... this is more usual now.

[Travis McGee]

Ukraine. Military Summary And Analysis

02.07.2022
2,213 watching now Premiere in progress.
Started 13 minutes ago
This video describes the military situation in Ukraine on the 2nd of July

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2CPyLQV4u0&ab_channel=MilitarySummary

[frithguild]

What I’ve heard is that many of the Ukraine forces are retreating to the Bakhmut region of the Donetsk oblast.

It seems that in line with Russian doctrine, a means of escape from Severodonetsk/Lisichansk was left open while surrounded by a gauntlet. That RF has 20,000 POW's, now with Lisichansk surrounded probably 25,000, reveals to the Ukr soldiers that both retreat and fighting are futile. The RF gladly takes prisoners and appears to treat them well.

Kiev has said that the forces from Severodonetsk/Lisichansk have fallen back to Bakmut. Maybe. What is happened there is much like what has happening now in Bakmut is much like what has been happening in Kharkov - UKR militiamen (the most enthusiastic ones looking for millions of Twitter likes - the Kraken Unit) "counterattack," RF forces fall back and start their artillery meat grinder. Kraken (Neo-Nazi) forces are decimated while the city, here Kharkov, remains unmolested. RF then retakes the ground they ceded - The Kraken advances on their counterattacks outside of Kharkov over the past few weeks are completly gone.

Bakmut, which occupies a critical supply route is next. Then Sloviansk and Kramatorsk.

[McGruff]

[BobL]

“One Ukrainian soldier that surrendered to the Russians reported 4 day training with two trips to the firing range... this is more usual now.”

Incredible...

[Travis McGee]

Armchair Warlord

https://twitter.com/ArmchairW/status/1543278015047540736

Lisichansk is now fully under Russian control after Ukrainian troops routed from the city and its defenses collapsed.

Looks like my prediction this fight would take a week was dead on.

I expect the Russians to push on Seversk with minimal delay, and given the state of Ukrainian troops in the town do not expect lengthy resistance there.

Noteworthy that even Western media is admitting Russian troops are being greeted as liberators by many local residents.

[Travis McGee]

Current “Military Summary” channel (live now) mentions prominenty that new Russian flame thrower rockets are leading to rapid surrender/retreat of UAF troops. Also notes that key aspect of the fall of Lysychansk is that it’s a key RR hub and opens up new Russian RR logistics routes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2CPyLQV4u0&ab_channel=MilitarySummary

[Travis McGee]

Current July 2 map.