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To: EEGator

>>>>I don’t get it. The number of young (18-35) sluts is staggering.
There’s a reason they wind up marrying some beta simp.
No alpha male wants some worn out slut for a wife and mother.<<<<

You gotta wonder how many “young sluts” these “alpha males” helped “wear out” by insisting they put out, though.

I agree all the way with waiting until marriage. Sadly, our culture tells our young people that this is abnormal and even unhealthy and has for a some decades now.

It’s a widely accepted myth nowadays that people used to marry in their mid teens. Not true.

Aside from from royalty and the higher nobility (who did often marry in their teens), women married for the first time in their early to mid twenties, men in their mid to late twenties during the Renaissance:

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/SLT/society/family/marriage.html

And also during Medieval times (scroll down to The “European Marriage Pattern” section:

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/news-wires-white-papers-and-books/betrothal-marriage-age

What about later on?

Recency era: “Sources put the average age of marriage between 23 and 27 for women and between 25 and 29 for men.”

Victorian era: “At the end of the 18th century, the average age of first marriage was 28 years old for men and 26 years old for women. During the 19th century, the average age fell for English women, but it didn’t drop any lower than 22. Patterns varied depending on social and economic class, of course, with working-class women tending to marry slightly older than their aristocratic counterparts.”

Modern claims that people married in their early to mid teens (based on a few royal and noble marriages) and it is therefore “unhealthy” to delay sex until marriage (or at least betrothal) is pure poppycock.

People did not lose their minds, and no, the church steps and roadsides were not piled high with illegitimate babies:

“Illegitimate births and premarital conceptions reached their highest recorded level during Victorian times, as around 1650, less than 1% of all births were illegitimate and only 16% were premaritally conceived. In sharp contrast, in 1852, 6.8% of all births were illegitimate and over 40% were premaritally conceived.”

Compare and contrast with the 20th and 21st centuries:


What links liberalized contraception and abortion with the declining shotgun marriage rate? Before 1970, the stigma of unwed motherhood was so great that few women were willing to bear children outside of marriage. The only circumstance that would cause women to engage in sexual activity was a promise of marriage in the event of pregnancy. Men were willing to make (and keep) that promise for they knew that in leaving one woman they would be unlikely to find another who would not make the same demand. Even women who would be willing to bear children out-of-wedlock could demand a promise of marriage in the event of pregnancy.

The increased availability of contraception and abortion made shotgun weddings a thing of the past. Women who were willing to get an abortion or who reliably used contraception no longer found it necessary to condition sexual relations on a promise of marriage in the event of pregnancy. But women who wanted children, who did not want an abortion for moral or religious reasons, or who were unreliable in their use of contraception found themselves pressured to participate in premarital sexual relations without being able to exact a promise of marriage in case of pregnancy. These women feared, correctly, that if they refused sexual relations, they would risk losing their partners. Sexual activity without commitment was increasingly expected in premarital relationships.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/an-analysis-of-out-of-wedlock-births-in-the-united-states/


Yes, it’s PBS, but surprisingly on the mark and seriously worth a look. Includes other factors driving up percent of births to unwed mothers:

https://www.pbs.org/fmc/timeline/ddisruption.htm

We got sex, drugs and rock and roll, y’all. “Reliable birth control” backed up by “safe and legal abortion” on demand has given us an explosion of babies born to single mothers to be raised in poverty and abused by a succession of Mommy’s boyfriends.

The rate for out of wedlock births in 2020 was 40.5%. In 2019, for blacks, it was 69.4 percent; for American Indians/Alaska Natives, 68.2 percent (Native Hawaiians/Other Pacific Islanders were at 50.4 percent); for Hispanics, 51.8 percent; for whites, 28.2 percent; and for Asian Americans, 11.7 percent.

In other words, contraception and abortion have wildly increased — not decreased — the number of babies born to single mothers.


44 posted on 06/25/2022 7:21:48 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

Men haven’t ever changed, women did. Men “convincing women to have sex” is just one excuse in a long line of women taking zero accountability in their decisions.

I don’t know how old you are, but many chicks took zero convincing. I’ve had girls(multiple) grab me under the table and say they want me to **** them. Is that my alpha male aggression?

Menstruation + beer + no accountability = sluts


53 posted on 06/25/2022 8:26:54 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: CatHerd
Patterns varied depending on social and economic class, of course, with working-class women tending to marry slightly older than their aristocratic counterparts.”

"Irish birth control."

57 posted on 06/25/2022 8:40:53 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (“Government is the problem.” --Milton Friedman)
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To: CatHerd
The rate for out of wedlock births in 2020 was 40.5%. In 2019, for blacks, it was 69.4 percent; for American Indians/Alaska Natives, 68.2 percent (Native Hawaiians/Other Pacific Islanders were at 50.4 percent); for Hispanics, 51.8 percent; for whites, 28.2 percent; and for Asian Americans, 11.7 percent.

Inverse proportion to intelligence, stability, self-support, taxpaying and productivity. But hey, all cultures are equal.

58 posted on 06/25/2022 8:45:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (“Government is the problem.” --Milton Friedman)
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