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To: TexasGurl24

Can someone take this legalese and put it in plain english?
Do you still need a permit to carry conceiled?
Can you now open carry?
What hoops do you have to jump through now?


14 posted on 06/23/2022 7:41:39 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: joe fonebone

From what I’ve been hearing, “May Issue,” concealed carry permits are now gone. All states must become, “Shall Issue.”


25 posted on 06/23/2022 7:46:55 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: joe fonebone

Here is a quote:

The states, including New York, that had used proper cause requirements “may continue to require licenses for carrying handguns for self-defense so long as those States employ objective licensing requirements like those used by the 43 shall-issue States.”


30 posted on 06/23/2022 7:50:56 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: joe fonebone

I am wondering the same. You might have the right to carry, but do you still have to get a permit? If you have to get a permit, then it seems you really don’t have a right to carry, as it’s up to someone else to confer that right on you.


35 posted on 06/23/2022 7:56:08 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: joe fonebone

To follow up...

It appears that the states can apply “objective” standards to issue licenses. But, they cannot apply a “subjective” standard.

For example, everyone has to pass a firearm safety course. And a background check.

But, in some states there is no longer the requirement to point out why an individual has more of a need for concealed carry.

It also cleared up the distinction between self defense in the home and in public. While it stated there were “traditional” places that should be gun free, otherwise there is no distinction between self defense in your home and in the general public.


36 posted on 06/23/2022 7:56:30 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: joe fonebone

As importantly, can I carry when I travel to New York or California or Hawaii?


68 posted on 06/23/2022 8:26:21 AM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: joe fonebone

States can still require a permit, However, they can No longer make it a two-part permit where part one is you pass a background check and then part two is they decide if they issue one, even if you passed said background check, based on your stated reason for applying. As an example, Place is like New York city, Boston Massachusetts, etc. Would strictly enforce the two part requirement and make you write down a reason why you wanted it. Even if you put self-defense, they would deny it unless you could specify a specific threat and even then they still could deny it.

However, if you were some special celebrity, extremely wealthy person who could afford a lawyer, etc. They will gladly issue you one no matter white.


105 posted on 06/23/2022 9:37:39 AM PDT by matt04 ( )
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