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To: Dr. Franklin
The issue of secession was not necessarily for SCOTUS to claim original jurisdiction, and thus it was so much dicta.

The claim was that Texas was not a state under the Constitution but was an occupied territory. And as such the Supreme Court did not have original jurisdiction. So the question of whether Texas was a state was a matter before the court, and the legality of the Texas secession was central to answering that question. So ruling on secession was also a matter for the court to decide. If the manner in which Texas seceded was illegal then Texas never left the Union. If it never left the Union then it remained a state even while engaged in rebellion. If it was always a state then the Supreme Court had original jurisdiction in this case. All is central to the matter before the court so none of the Chief Justice's comments were made in dicta.

Since Texas had been required to apply for readmission to the Union in order for its representatives to take office in Congress, Chase's argument is counterfactual. Only an idiot would argue to the contrary:

An Act to admit the State of Texas to Representation in the Congress of the United States. March 30, 1870

Since you have decided to resort to insults then I'll merely point out than only an idiot would confuse an enabling act that admits a state to the union with legislation restoring the rebellious state's Congressional delegation to Congress which was required by the Reconstruction Acts.

166 posted on 06/23/2022 6:14:51 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Since you have decided to resort to insults then I'll merely point out than only an idiot would confuse an enabling act that admits a state to the union with legislation restoring the rebellious state's Congressional delegation to Congress which was required by the Reconstruction Acts.

Which sadly begs the question of how a state can be denied its representation in Congress? In particular equal senate representation in Senate, which is guaranteed in all cases. and prohibited from amendment by Article V of the U.S. Constitution: "no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate." The only way to conclude that Texas and the other Confederate states had consented to their loss of seats in the Senate is that they had seceded. If that were not possible, then they were immediately entitled to them whenever they wanted them to take office in Senate. Again, Chase's argument is counterfactual, and hypocritical.
168 posted on 06/23/2022 6:52:15 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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