Posted on 06/01/2022 7:48:28 PM PDT by crz
It has been difficult to get honest facts about this conflict. Always the propaganda.
“Ukrainians could have done that would have resulted in them defeating Russia.”
True, but when you fight a superior army, the best is fight a war of attrition. Movements are therefore important.
The result is that the attacker becomes frustrated and loses his moral capability to continue the struggle.
We’ve been in those situations several times since the 1960s.
Donald Pleasance was cloned?
Can’t thank you enough for posting this. Best battle map analysis on the entire WWW. Wondering what the AEIOU on his shoulder patch could stand for. Are they an army of poets? :)
“Russia has practically ceased to suffer losses during the special operation in Ukraine,” “That I dont believe at all.”
Lots of misinformation about Russia’s personnel losses. The post yesterday from the CIA analyst said that the numbers you keep seeing even from the US and UK are numbers given by Ukraine. No other information is known. And Ukraine lies about everything!
This only paints a partial picture; but at least it is a real picture:
Here is a transcript of a video of a Russian soldier in the battle that offers some insight. It is from three weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1519984803122188290/photo/4
1. We have after Kiev went to a little town left from Kharkov,
Izyum where heavy fighting is happening. Mostly those battles
are artillery battles since four to five days ago.
2. Their divisions are trying to engage (break through line),
there is zero success to it.
3. We are doing our jobs well, not even whole battalion is
activated, few people are sent to clean up. Everything else
is artillery, artillery works 24/7.
4. This is the beginning of the second phase, we had no idea
how to will develop, however its going with following
rhythm. Artillery works 24/7, example
5. when artillery started working intensely they were responding
with same force, however precision (rockets) and air force
have brought them to the point where they are unable to
respond 1:25 [ they fire one on our 25 ]
6. Because all their checkpoints from which they utilize
artillery are destroyed. There have been enormous reduction
of their tech (military hardware) and people.
7. There are losses, we have been two days ago on that side of
the front helping guys. 16 people were killed from Haubica
152mm, a few projectiles hit around in zone in which they
were sitting.
8. That counts as greatest loss in one day that happened. There
are losses, considering intensity of battle losses are
minimal. Every loss is big, this is war people are throwing
bombs and projectile so it should come as no surprise.
9.
10. I am reading Ukrainine newspaper, according to them they
have completely wiped us there. There are 40 pieces of
destroyed military hardware, unfortunately we ( our
battalion) are forbidden from taking phones or record
anything.
11. I personally would like to record because 40 pieces of
military hardware is but 1% of that which has arrived there.
There is so much military hardware there that has entered in
last 20 days i cannot explain with words.
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12. Artillery, tanks, since coming to front they are
immediately breaking the line and paving way for infantry,
mostly that is mechanized infantry.
13. Artillery is working on territory of Donbas, i have talked
today with our fighters Mariupol is taken.
14. Azovstol is surrounded and they are ordered to maintain
formation and do nothing but wait. Question is about food and
water and how long they will last. They are simply waiting
for them to come out which is best thing to do.
15. Battalion Sparta has returned to Doljnjeck that is battalion
from Motorola, and they are going to different front.
16. Division of their battalions which were on Kiev front which
we have engaged are attempting to reach Donbas where huge
battle will be waged. They simply cannot reach that front
from Kiev since our air force is beating them.
17. It proved to be excellent move to engage such a huge
division and then cut it off from territory (Donbas?) where
biggest battle will be fought, which will ultimately end the
conflict of this war.
18. Our air force and precision rockets are still destroying
ammo storage, big groups of fighters.
19. Air force and precision rockets are utilized in deeper
territory of Ukraine specifically when there are huge groups
of people of whom are mostly foreign soldiers of fortune or
volunteers who came to wage war with
20. desire to help Ukraine. There are a lot of people who
dislike Russians, i have read some comments on facebook and
apparently there are even in Serbia some, luckily they are
minority thank God.
21. People are unable to grasp since they are limited, this is
not about Russia only and this is not local conflict. What
about last 8 years when Ukranians were killing people of
Donbas what was happening then.
22. As for that huge battle, there are around 60,000 Ukranian
military personel in that area, and we have order to not
rush forward.
23. Artillery, artillery, artillery day and night.
24. When you are shelled constantly, people are losing will and
morale to wage war and are surrendering which is good for our
side, as well as Ukrainins since there will be less
casualties.
25. On our front there are very few who are captured since they
know that very very long prison sentence is awaiting them so
they are fighting to the last on Donbas territory. Those
battles are short lived.
26. Those instructors from west that have come to train them
have taught them very little, one of few things they managed
to teach them is hate towards Russia and everything Russian.
27. They did teach them how to utilize artillery and gave them
huge amount.
28. Yesterday i have read in news that a lot of military
hardware is coming, however I have privilege to see some
reports that are not exactly to be shared with public.
29. Every location of where that military hardware will arrive
is known, and there are orders not to destroy it. We have
taken a lot of their military hardware: javelins, anti air
stingers, weapons.
30. Mostly nothing our boys use, since its not very effective
especially compared to Turi [not sure about which weapon he
is referring to] from Soviet Union which was designed to
destroy tanks.
31. It occurred on our front that tank is hit with javelin four
five times and it still functions, it also happened that
one hit destroys tank. Reality is, their effectiveness is
mostly boasted through stories.
32. There are a lot of no-man aircrafts which are mostly for
reconnaissance and help their artillery with coordination,
honestly one should pay tribute to guys who use them.
33. They are going in one kilometer towards us, between two
fires. Air craft flying, here only warplanes are allowed to
fly, everything else is forbidden.
34. Our plans are as I said to utilize artillery to deal maximum
damage to military hardware, fighters so we have least
losses possible.
35. I am certain 100%, according to orders I am getting, Putin
is in no rush, one should consider human lives.
36. In truth in first days there have been huge losses, around
500 people died first few days from the error of some
officers who are currently sitting in prison.
And here is more REAL information that presents an overall look at what it really happening on the front lines.
Kotsnews
⚡️Representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are conducting secret negotiations with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the burial of their dead. And about surrender. The negotiations were successful. The “O” group reports:
“I will not repeat that this has already become the norm for the Kiev regime and they operate on the principle: “no body, no business.” I want to talk about something else here.
I tried to write this post for a long time, something kept stopping me. Probably did not want one of its participants to repeat the fate of Sergei Lapko (company commander who received a term for showing the plight of the Armed Forces of Ukraine).
So, after the liberation of another settlement from the Nazis in the Donetsk region, we went to the enemy command (fortunately, intelligence works well and their call signs with the frequencies on which they work are well known to us) and offered them to pick up the bodies of their dead comrades, naturally with a complete cessation fire from our side and unimpeded passage of the car to the designated place.
After a short conversation, they received a categorical refusal and a request not to disturb them anymore on this occasion (this is a literary language, there was a long stream of obscene expressions). Toward evening they were all buried. (I’m not attaching a photo, I’ll explain further).
In the middle of the night, they come to me on the radio from the checkpoint and ask me to urgently arrive. Understanding nothing, I am undermined, I leave for the post. On the spot, they tell me that a fighter came from the other side, calls your call sign, said he will only talk to you. I go into the room, a young guy is sitting, the uniform is dirty, shabby. Showed documents. And he began to say: “I’m the commander of a platoon of those boys whose bodies you proposed to take today, I couldn’t get on the radio, my own people would be immediately decided. Bury my soldiers, please, and tell me where, I will tell their relatives the location. The command flatly refuses inform families about the dead and wounded, so as not to cause panic among relatives. We are now called up only because otherwise we will go to jail, and here we can’t retreat, cadre or nationalists are behind us, we will get a bullet from them.
He told how they were prepared in training before being sent to the front end. “For two weeks we studied the charters, 30 parthorons for shooting training and on the road.” All his words were confirmed by photographs. He says: “Fortunately, they don’t take away phones, we record everything.”
They talked for a long time, spoke about the mood in the units: “everything is sad, everyone is afraid, and those who are in front and those who are behind.” But he came not only with this request. “My main task,” he continued, “is to save the lives of my fighters. Tell me how we can surrender. We don’t want to fight for the oligarchs who are sitting abroad and our corrupt government! Why is it possible for Azov, but not for us?” .
After receiving all the instructions, he left, left with the hope that his remaining subordinates would remain alive. A day later, after the start of the assault on the next settlement, the platoon of this commander surrendered in full force, as he promised. Now their lives are not in danger.
Summing up, I want to ask only one question. When will the population of Ukraine realize that their president, a drug addict and boy-loving Arestovich, does not care about the lives of the citizens of his country!? They calmly surrendered the Azov in Mariupol, declaring that this was an evacuation, and they will continue to do so. Until the last Ukrainian... I wanted to briefly, but it didn’t quite work out.”
Your replies are to long. Sorry.
As for Zelensky..He will be either removed by a coup by the senior military commanders in The Ukraine, or, he will be assassinated by the radicals around him...or both.
People forget, or fail to understand. These radical Bandera groups were actually fighting Ukrainian regular military prior to this whole debacle in the west of Ukraine. From 2014 to the start of this conflict.
Poland, passed a law banning Bandera ideology Feb 1st of this year. It sparked a huge protest from the Ukrainians. It also..IMO, was the kicker (excuse) for Putin to move.
In short..this is an ethnic cultural war fueled in large part by the Bandera ideology as well as criminal activities by foreign interventions.
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