Posted on 05/29/2022 8:25:39 AM PDT by yldstrk
I wonder if the Defund the Police crowd are those complaining about police inaction.
Well...there....you...go. Most bullies are cowards. They pick on people they see as weaker than them and unlikely to fight back. Ever see one go after someone who might actually be able to go toe to toe with them?
> The reason we have school district police... <
I taught for decades in an urban public school, so I know a little bit about this. School districts have their own police force for two reasons.
1. Faster response times. A school district police officer is right there when trouble happens. A municipal police officer might be 15 minutes or more away.
2. Cover-ups. When a school district cop writes an incident report, the district can twist it, modify it, and then bury it. Can’t do that with a municipal cop’s report.
In my experience, reason #2 is WAY more important to the district than is reason #1. Heck, we were even told that calling the city police (whom we referred to as “the real police”) - well, that was a firing offense.
How many times have I heard on FR someone say, “that would never happen in Texas”.
In their defense, they did taze and tackle some parents so technically they did something.
Chief Wiggum, from the Simpson’s with a Stetson.
I think the stetsons are DPS/Rangers.
I wear a Stetson. Would rather that headline read “The Cowards”
I find this so disturbing that it makes me physically ill and nauseous trying to wrap my mind around it. It is absolutely unfathomable.
“All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing” Edmund Burke.
No,the various school resource officer programs are about virtue signaling. Nothing more, nothing less.
That happened in West "By God" Virginia.
What big bad group of men could live with themselves after cowering behind each other, in complete safety, while children are slowly slaughtered mere feet away? No doubt these punks will do just fine, but I wouldn’t want to be them. They bought themselves, what, another 40 or 50 years of life? That’s a long time for it to gnaw at you.
To make it more authentic, that picture really should have a tased and handcuffed parent laying in the foreground. Come on SWAT photographer, you can do better.
For example, I heard stories of police going in and getting family members out. Who were they and when did they do it?
The Border Patrol agent who was on the final assault apparently didn't have a helmet? Does that mean that he and his team went in without being fully equipped? How many were on the final assault? One source said it was him and one other BP agent who just went in and got the job done, but I haven't heard any reliable source on that.
That is the saddest part, getting a text or phone call from your 8 year old son or daughter, about a madman in their mist, and a cop tazes you, as you would do anything to save your child.
Rethinking Active Shooter Response (couple of excerpts below)
https://www.policemag.com/340911/rethinking-active-shooter-response
When I first became a police officer, I viewed responding to an active shooter event, especially at a school, as the most stressful and significant thing that I would ever possibly experience. I spent hours researching the subject as a whole by researching previous events, both in the U.S. and abroad.
After I became an instructor for my department, I expanded my research by polling officers and agencies from across the country. I have also had the privilege of attending some great training offered by some very reputable trainers and training groups.
Based on my research and training, I am of the opinion that the standard “quad,” four-officer response is not only ineffective, but impractical. In fact, the only incident I know of where an attacker was stopped by a four-officer or more team response was the 2003 incident at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio.
In all of the incidents I have researched, once the shooters were confronted by an armed response, no other innocents were killed. In each of these incidents, with the exception once again of the Case Western Reserve University shooting, the initial armed response met by the attacker consisted of one or two officers or civilians.
That’s why my agency started with a two-officer response when it created its active shooter response program. In addition, the training encourages any officer who is willing to go in solo to do so. The single-officer response that ended the 2009 Carthage, N.C., nursing home shooting and the reaction by a single, off-duty officer that helped stop the 2007 Salt Lake City Trolley Square Mall shooting are excellent examples of how one officer can make a very big difference.
The Cost of Waiting
One question that all officers have to answer for themselves is how long will they wait for backup before engaging an active shooter.
I believe the answer to this question is: However long it takes me to get my rifle and my go-bag out of my trunk.
During an active shooter incident, you are dealing with a very brutal equation: Time taken by first responders equals casualties. One of the largest body counts from an active shooting incident so far is the Virginia Tech University incident of 2007. Depending on which after-action report you read, the attacker shot an average of eight people and killed two every minute. We have to get in quickly and end the killing.
I always thought of the "school resource officers" (a ridiculous name I hate, by the way) was primarily there for when the school officials want to open lockers for drugs. I think of John Candy from Vacation more than someone fighting for the lives of children they are sworn to protect.
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