Posted on 05/26/2022 1:32:55 PM PDT by TigerClaws
Texas cops have revealed that there was no armed guard on campus when the gunman arrived on Tuesday which allowed him to walk 'unobstructed' through an unlocked door and into the building where he slaughtered 21 people.
At a press conference on Thursday afternoon, Victor Escalon, the Regional Director for the Department of Public Safety South Texas, said Salvador Ramos walked through an unlocked door 'unobstructed' and that there was no guard 'readily available'.
It contradicts earlier reports that he fired at a school resource officer.
Ramos entered the school at 11.40am, 12 minutes after crashing his truck outside the school and walking towards campus with his AR-15. That is when police were alerted to the scene.
At 11.44am, the first cops entered the school. Ramos shot at them and they retreated.
It's unclear if he had already shot the kids and teachers in the fourth grade classroom by then, or if he went on to attack them after those cops retreated.
It then took an hour for specialized SWAT teams to arrive. At 1.06pm, the incident was declared over after Ramos was shot dead.
In the meantime, 150 cops were gathering outside. Some of them were filmed pinning parents to the floor and some were even placed in handcuffs, according to witnesses.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Wow, no armed guard and he found a door unlocked. What are the chances?
Law Enforcement Fail. Big time.
Maybe so. Teachers don’t want people seeing them teach or hear what they are talking about. Or what they are not teaching or talking about. Cameras are racist..
Can someone who knows Texas gun laws explain how he was able to buy the guns? It was reported that he had just moved out of his mother’s house and into his grandparents. Not sure which address was on his driver’s license but since his mom was a drug user (arrests?) and his grandfather was a convicted felon, wouldn’t those addresses be flagged for no guns?
Good catch, the CCM (Corrupt Corporate Media) always has an agenda and it’s never in our best interest.
Do not laugh, ok? Let's play a little "Let's Suppose" game.
Suppose there were social workers (in this situation, they'd be Victim's Advocates...usually they are out of the Prosecutor's (D.A.'s) office.
As I watched some clips of those poor parents trying to get into the school or even just trying to get information, I thought "Wouldn't it be great for those parents if they had a contact person with LE? Women would be best at this. They could have calmed the parents by GIVING THEM SOME DAMN INFORMATION and herding them to a safe place to wait. This would have freed up the cops.....
Of course, turns out they didn't need all those cops, precious few of them actually went into the school. The cops that were with the parents were doing what they trained to do...FOR CROWD CONTROL. Crowd control is an entirely different skill set. Empathy is not part of their training.
Women are calmer and more empathetic during an emergency (look THAT up in your Funk n Wagnalls!). Men mostly go to "fight or flight" mode, usually it's "fight". Women go into mothering mode.
So, that's my pitch for Victim's Advocates on the SWAT team.
Another "Let's Suppose" is so f'n radical, ya might wanna sit down.
Why don't we arm the teachers? Please don't anyone tell me about "it's too much pressure for the teachers". Bullshit. The armed teachers would have to have a Concealed Carry Permit. In order to get one, each applicant should have had that deep moral conversation with themselves: "Can I kill someone if I have to?" No, not shoot to injure or just wing 'em. Zipper method, 3 taps...one to the head, two to the chest, or just center of mass. Only those that can say "yes, I can shoot to kill" should be issued a CPL. I'm a CPL holder, and yes, yes I can shoot to kill...if I have to. But, I had lots of training with local law enforcement and a prosecutor who was a real gun nut. He was pretty cool. He asked me if I would be the "protection" for our office, conceal carry in a courthouse.
Only after much thought and discussion with (dearly departed) DH could I answer the question. It's a real heavy question.
So, yes, I think teachers that are able to carry SHOULD be in the classrooms. Not just one per building, but as many as are willing.
Is this the latest narrative they’re trying to sell? The other one is:
“the shooter encountered a school resource officer when he got to the school and dropped a bag with ammunition inside before entering campus”
“The bottom line is law enforcement was there,” Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steve McCraw said Wednesday. “They did engage immediately. They did contain (Ramos) in the classroom.”
“There could have been further loss of life if those initial officers weren’t on scene to break those windows and rescue any other children and teachers inside that classroom,”
“Police change their story on how Uvalde shooter entered school”
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/uvalde-texas-shooting-police-school
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My understanding is the police did rescue some children - their own.
“He got caught goofing off on the one day he should have been working.”
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https://twitter.com/OHNOITSKEN/status/1529893011244523520
Correction to my first response, photos show he was a county sheriff officer so not sure if they are assigned to schools.
Go to the link below and scroll down for the photos. The officer was at the school earlier in street clothes and in the later photos of him and his wife, he is in uniform. The caption says they are crying, you be the judge.
Here is the link:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10855877/Med-aide-recalls-moment-daughter-10-dead-Texas-school-shooting.html
Can someone who knows Texas gun laws explain how he was able to buy the guns?
The form asks a dozen or so questions of you, any wrong answer will disqualify you; but does not ask about the people you live with. The murderer had just turned 18 and apparently had no adult criminal record. A NICS check would show him clean and eligible to buy. I believe, but could be wrong, that the NICS data base looks for names forbidden to possess, not addresses.
If you arm the teachers, they will keep the guns on their bodies, silly. What good will a gun do if it's locked in a drawer? I know the left wants us to think that guns can do all these EEEEEEVIL things by themselves, but that's just bloviating.
We’re informed the cops waited an hour, holding back parents who are hearing their children be killed by a mental patient.
I’m supposed to be willing to turn in my arms and allow this government to protect me?? Yeah, that’ll happen. When pigs fly.
They’ll sleep just fine. Their job is to protect the government and enforce their political masters’ will on the populace. Their job is NOT to protect the populace. It takes courage to risk your life going against an enemy who can fight back. The military has this mindset. Cops don’t. You don’t join the police with any real expectation of risking your life. Cops aren’t infantry and wouldn’t come close to qualifying psychologically though they puff themselves up and act as though you should treat them as they went in on the first wave at Omaha beach.
Thanks for the response. It would seem the ‘common sense” gun laws the politicians are always pushing exhibit zero common sense. But then again, the career criminals making these laws profit from their failure.
Same as the assigned resource officer and the responding sheriffs did not enter or engage the crazed juvenile killer at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in FL.
The a@@hole resource officer did nothing— and then immediately retired for a PENSION. Sheriff Israel was removed from office by Gov. DeSantis— and he failed to win reelection being the crook he is/was. Same scenario.
Noone with simple skills a police trained individual could have done and stopped or limited this killer. And no armed teachers— as TX law permits and maybe now should require. Concealed firearm trained teachers.
Two people with ARs should have been able to pin that guy down Pin and move. Pin and move. That’s how we did it on active duty. One guy fired one guy advances. I hate to Monday morning quarterback the police. But from my vantage point, it’s a bad look.
Yes indeed my later post in this thread. YOu have it correct.
I don’t understand how one can think that the trained, armed police all too often can’t handle these situations, but an elementary school teacher can.
Very easily. My mom was a teacher for forty years...she would not have hesitated one microsecond to defend HER kids. She was very conversant with firearms....
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