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Texas power grid operator urges residents to conserve energy as plants go offline
Fox news ^ | 05/14/2022 | Julia Musto

Posted on 05/14/2022 10:37:39 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Texas residents are being asked to conserve power after six power plants tripped offline.

The Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages the majority of the state's power grid, wrote Friday that the incident resulted in the loss of approximately 2,900 megawatts of electricity.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; ercot; grid; power; residents; texas
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To: JD_UTDallas

In all seriousness, I was doing my taxes this year (I always do my own) and it hit me: The methodology they use to calculate stuff is eerily like the screwed up math we’ve heard so much about the last few years that is being taught in public schools.

Suddenly it all makes sense.😆


41 posted on 05/14/2022 11:32:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

sounds like some people should run out to the electricity stations to fill up their electric cans just in case they need to keep driving their overglorified golf carts...


42 posted on 05/14/2022 11:32:22 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I worked as an operator for ERCOT for over 20 years.
With very little input from ERCOT operations are abiding by Protocols written by the Market Participants.
The market design was to reward generators during scarce times.
Wind generation with their PTC had a field day.
Thermal generators could not compete in a market with wind bidding in at zero or less and shut down.
All fine and dandy when the wind blows.


43 posted on 05/14/2022 11:32:50 AM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable )
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To: Dilbert San Diego

France figured that out years ago. They plan of 14+ new reactors in the next decades good for them. Texas has the pad space to double our nuclear power from 18% to 32% of our total power. The South Texas project has two empty pad spaces for two more huge reactors the cooling lake was sized for a 4 reactor plant. Same for Comanche peak it also has two empty pad spaces and it’s lake was sized for a 4 reactor plant. But nukes scare the Karen’s and their cuck Brad hubbys


44 posted on 05/14/2022 11:33:15 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’m certainly for that.


45 posted on 05/14/2022 11:37:36 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: Dilbert San Diego

With nuclear and gad powered electric generating plants we would not have these power failures.


46 posted on 05/14/2022 11:46:59 AM PDT by Ronald77
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Millions of illegals and electric vehicles. What could possibly go wrong?


47 posted on 05/14/2022 11:48:11 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis )
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Nuclear produces no greenhouse gases

Not so fast...

Are the uranium mines all electric or do they burn carbon based fuel?

How is the raw uranium transported to the processing plant? In electric trucks?

How is the uranium processed? It takes a lot of processing before the uranium is ready for the nuclear power plant.

How is the uranium transported from the processing plant to the power plant? On electric trucks?

How much energy does it take to manufacture a nuclear power plant, complying with all of the NRC safety mandates? Are there any electric concrete trucks?

So, once everything is in place, producing electricity in a nuclear power plant does not create a lot of greenhouse gasses. However, it takes a lot of carbon based energy to get it up and running.

48 posted on 05/14/2022 11:56:20 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: cuban leaf

Just think about the lifetime of those wind machines. Maybe 30 years, possibly 40. More likely 20 - 25. Conventional fossil and nuclear plants (as well as the B-52 bomber) all use “life extension programs” to prolong their economic life. But everything reaches the end of the road eventually when parts are no longer available or fundamental material limits are reached (think fatigue). I doubt that wind machines will be suitable for life extension, either.

Then what happens to those hundreds of thousands of machines? Abandoned in place, most likely, decrepit, falling apart. The companies that built them didn’t have to post any surety bonds to remove the junk and restore the sites at the end-of-life. The nation will have MILLIONS of these obsolete, inoperative pieces of garbage from sea to shining sea. Unfortunately, our seas won’t shine any more because they will be covered in offshore wind turbines.


49 posted on 05/14/2022 12:00:11 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Wanting to make America great isn’t an insult unless you’re trying to make it worse! ULTRAMAGA!!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

We are in the 90’s now but nothing like July-September heat. During those months the AC units run all day and night. Sometimes the low temp for the day is 80-85 and very humid.

Add to that new neighborhoods are popping up all over the place adding more draw on the grid.

They are telling us to conserve now?
Can’t wait until August.


50 posted on 05/14/2022 12:00:29 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Let's Go Brandon)
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To: Nextrush
"Why did Texas become so dependent on wind and solar who sold Texas out to begin with?"

T. Boone Pickens.

51 posted on 05/14/2022 12:05:42 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: Ronald77

It was gas plants that went down this time, 6 of them taking 2900 megawatts with them. In February the gas grid froze and 40,000+ megawatts of thermal power went down that’s half the typical winter grid capacity btw. Texas doesn’t store gas its use it as it comes out the ground. The well heads have no freeze protection nor do the surface gathering lines. It’s a recipe for disaster. Texas needs to invest heavy into salt dome gas storage of at least a week of total gas grid capacity the Texas RRC must mandate this as the industry will never swallow the multiple billions it will cost. Then Texas needs to winterize half or more of the well heads and gathering systems. Additionally gas turbines need to be modified to have dual fuel burner cans like they do in the Midwest and North East. Those turbines then should have 3 to 4 days of back up fuel oil in storage tanks inside the plant boundary ready for when not if the gas grid goes down. That’s another hundred million or so. Contrary to what people in the internet say those actually in the industry who had access to the real time data from ERCOT and the RRC and also the report to the Texas legislature following feb it was the loss of 40000 megawatts of thermal power that crashed the grid. Wind at that time was forecast to be under 8000 megawatts the turbines while some froze in still made 4000 megawatts half of the forecast amount none of which was put in the firm bank by ERCOT they were counting on gas turbines to carry the 80,000 megawatts of demand on night one when 40,000 megawatts of gas and nuclear power dropped out it was panic mode. 60% of Texas gas supply froze up and /or was offline due to pumping power issues the gas grid nearly collapsed leaving everyone cold. Residential is prioritized over commercial including power plants so when the gas pressures dropped commercial was cut and power plants were next a good amount of that 40 gw drop out was lack if fuels at the plant gate. Dual fuel turbines solve that issue with salt dome gas storage to firm up the grid when the well heads freeze in. I watched the live data streams with commercial level access tthat February Texas came within 4 minutes of a black start event with the grid down for weeks to mouths with a black start event. The grid dropped to 59.2 hz the lowest I have ever seen a grid go and not collapse outright. Only the system inertia saved the day and just barely had less load been shed a black start was a certainty.


52 posted on 05/14/2022 12:08:57 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: FtrPilot

These are the numbers you seek o padawan

https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/energy-and-the-environment/carbon-dioxide-emissions-from-electricity.aspx

An independent review, Horns leading the way as always GO HORNS!

https://energy.utexas.edu/news/nuclear-and-wind-power-estimated-have-lowest-levelized-co2-emissions


53 posted on 05/14/2022 12:12:30 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: cuban leaf

The last two times I drove thru that area, better than half the turbines were not turning.


54 posted on 05/14/2022 12:15:56 PM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: anoldafvet

Offshore is the way to go. Click on the USA 5000+ gw that’s 5,000,000 megawatts or equal to 5000 nuclear reactors of the typical BWR design size. Wind offshore also never stops blowing it’s the temperature defence between land and water over distance that drives near shore winds and offshore winds it’s differential heating of water which thanks to clouds happens everyday everywhere offshore. The North Atlantic has winds howling 24/7/365 ask any fisherman from Cape Cod or Maine the challenge is building anchorage that can take the constant wind and waves pounding on them.

https://esmap.org/esmap_offshorewind_techpotential_analysis_maps


55 posted on 05/14/2022 12:24:21 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

But...but...but.. what about all those damn windmills ALL OVER THE DAMN STATE? What the hell are they doing? Blowin’ in da wind?


56 posted on 05/14/2022 12:32:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't blame me, I voted for President Trump. Let's Go Brandon! FJB!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

‘You lost another power plant’


57 posted on 05/14/2022 12:35:53 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Last week they had us conserving and boiling water. We’re starting to pay for Jo Jo Branden’s Row vs. Wade policy down on the Rio Grande. They are coming in by the thousands. The Walmarts are crawling with them. All the Feds are down on the Rio pouring baby formula down their throats and changing their chitty chitty bang bang diapers.


58 posted on 05/14/2022 12:44:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't blame me, I voted for President Trump. Let's Go Brandon! FJB!)
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To: ChuckHam

isn’t there something called planning??


59 posted on 05/14/2022 1:26:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Planning is for wusses. Real guys just wing it. Making it up as they go along.


60 posted on 05/14/2022 1:34:29 PM PDT by alloysteel (There are folks running the government who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches - Will Rogers)
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