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Navy Risks Blowback in Bid to Scrap $5 Billion of Troubled Ships
gCaptain ^ | May 11, 2022 | Tony Capaccio

Posted on 05/11/2022 12:27:33 PM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: BenLurkin; Vendome

They tried to give them away. No one wanted them. Four have already been de-commissioned. There isn’t even much “salvage” on them because they were such a wet dream to start with.


21 posted on 05/11/2022 1:17:15 PM PDT by OldWarBaby
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To: Carl Vehse

Probably retired to gated Florida mansions with side gigs as advisers to military-industrial complex.


22 posted on 05/11/2022 1:20:35 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: artichokegrower

By all means lets increase the defense budget.

Thats sarcasm. The amount of money the DoD wastes is staggering. They should get a cut and learn to make better decisions. But of course that will never happen.


23 posted on 05/11/2022 1:21:25 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Mr. Lucky

We knew that was never going to happen. The Navy argued the LCS could go “in harm’s way” in the brown water and could provide congressionally required fire support for the Marines. That obviously failed. Then the DDGX program failed. Then the extended range guided munition which also was supposed to fulfill the fire support requirement also turned into another boondoggle. Meanwhile Congress approved the striking of the Iowas.


24 posted on 05/11/2022 1:31:39 PM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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To: Rural_Michigan

The Navy started a real Frigate program and should cut their losses with these ships. Not Strike Group assets and way to expensive as mine sweepers.


25 posted on 05/11/2022 1:33:37 PM PDT by The Klingon
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To: The Klingon

It truly is amazing. This is at least 20 years of utter failure by the DON. I remember reading about DDG-21 and the LCS program many, many years ago. I even wrote a letter to the editor of Surface Warfare Magazine, which was published, expressing my opinion on how dumb this was.


26 posted on 05/11/2022 1:40:20 PM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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To: Mr. Lucky

“Weren‘t these supposed to be the ships to replace the Iowa Class?”

Bahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Oh my, that was funny! (-:


27 posted on 05/11/2022 2:23:12 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: colorado tanker

Like communism, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Drones and missiles make any offensive close shore support suicidal now. And they don’t have the strike capability for defensive shore support. And then there’s the general mucking up the MIC does to any weapons system. They could have made the ships out of compressed money, and they would have cost less.


28 posted on 05/11/2022 2:26:20 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: Rural_Michigan

The DDG-1000 hull will likely be the new Large Surface Combatant (CG-47/DDG-51 replacement). The Navy’s current plan is to remove the large gun and outfit the existing ships with Hypersonic weapons as well as Standard missiles in Vertical Launch System. But your right..a cluster


29 posted on 05/11/2022 2:36:40 PM PDT by The Klingon
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To: artichokegrower

Someone someplace in the USA could fix this and sell them back to the USA. Offer a billion dollar buy back clause and someone will figure it out.


30 posted on 05/11/2022 2:53:53 PM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice -can put the truth above narrative )
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To: artichokegrower

We are SENDING A MESSAGE to Russia and China, which is that we no longer need navel ships, since we now have the UN on our side.


31 posted on 05/11/2022 2:57:20 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: artichokegrower

Saves Russia the trouble of wasting hypersonics on them.


32 posted on 05/11/2022 2:58:06 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: artichokegrower
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33 posted on 05/11/2022 3:28:24 PM PDT by roving
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Ship I served. The new ones are ugly

34 posted on 05/11/2022 3:39:59 PM PDT by roving
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To: artichokegrower

I watched a documentary on the battle in the Pacific during WWII.

They used a lot of naval gunfire during the amphibious operations.

Can the Navy still do that?

The Marines are giving up their tanks.

I read that they are thinking about giving up their artillery.

Is this smart?


35 posted on 05/11/2022 3:42:29 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: artichokegrower

What about the LCS ships made by General Dynamics?


36 posted on 05/11/2022 3:49:02 PM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: Carl Vehse

Very wealthy retired admirals sitting on the board of Lockheed.


37 posted on 05/11/2022 3:50:01 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: The Klingon

You’d have thought the Navy would have learned their lesson about “no gun” platforms with the F4-D. If It’s DD size or larger it needs at least one automatic 128mm or larger gun. Quick inyo action and versatile counts go a lot missle can be quick and accurate but cannot replace a good gun.


38 posted on 05/11/2022 5:04:21 PM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch )
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Cut the losses. They were a dumb idea to begin with.

Absolutely.

The Navy spent $5 billion in taxpayer money for the ships and are looking at $4.3 billion in upgrades and maintenance.

The ships were meant to carry anti-submarine warfare equipment from Raytheon that failed in development and that plan was abandoned.

The ships were "hobbled by a latent propulsion system gear defect caused by a subcontractor that requires replacement".

Boat: A hole in the water that one throws money into.

The two happiest days in a boat owner's life are the day they bought the boat and the day they sell it.

These ships are very big holes for throwing money into and we, the taxpayers, would be happy to get rid of them.

39 posted on 05/11/2022 5:32:43 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: .44 Special

Because we only built 3 DDG-1000s instead of the originally 32 planned..,the 8 inch gun rounds where $800k apiece…Navy choose not to pay that and this year replace the guns with hypersonic missiles….the DDG-1000 has small guns for self defense


40 posted on 05/11/2022 5:33:44 PM PDT by The Klingon
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