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Unnamed U.S. official announces via CNBC that the US helped Ukraine sink Russian flagship Moskva
CNBC ^ | May 5, 2022 | Ken Dilanian, Courtney Kube and Carol E. Lee

Posted on 05/05/2022 5:30:32 PM PDT by rod5591

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To: libstripper

“Charles XII of Sweden, Napoleon, and Hitler all got into unnecessary wars with Russia and got greased. Now Nitwit Biden is doing the same thing. Even if we “win,” we’ll lose.“

This ^^^^^^


41 posted on 05/05/2022 7:57:02 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

you are thinking in a rational strategic framework. Nothing I have seen so far suggests such thinking is applicable here.

we are baiting them to start world war 3. our rulers’ goals are not rational by our definition - the US does not have an interest in a world war over the former Ukraine SSR.

they need a major war to try to stay in power, even if it wrecks us.


42 posted on 05/05/2022 7:58:29 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: rod5591
More proof of the following:


43 posted on 05/05/2022 8:13:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Your bat-excrement crazy mental illness does not impose an obligation upon me to deny reality.)
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To: farmguy

anyone who knows history knows that when governments are faced with desperate situations at home (and ours certainly is), they often will start wars.

ours is doing this. russia has openly said this is being escalated to distract from the economic stuff happening here. anyone with a brain should know it, no matter what you think of russia.

at this point, i would regard the US as the single most dangerous great power in the world, because we no longer act rationally.

russia acts rationally, even if it is not popular - you can look at their actions, history, and concern, and see where decisions are coming from. at least, some people can. a fair amount of the population is quite nicely brainwashed now. mass formation in a matter of weeks, just look at FR.

china acts rationally.

the US? if I look at our objective national interests, I can only conclude that our government acts in what would be regarded as reckless and insane manners.

we are going to push until we start world war 3.

then we are going to push until russia using some kind of nuke.

then we are going to use a bigger one than they did, and push them to retaliate further.


44 posted on 05/05/2022 8:16:22 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: rod5591

Well it’s because someone inside the administration, several someone’s probably, want to make sure that we’re so locked into path towards war with Russia that they have to supply boots on the ground in Ukraine


45 posted on 05/05/2022 10:48:27 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: rod5591

Are we truly trying to provoke nuclear of biological war with Russia? not so much by the things we are doing but by the trumpeting of them.


46 posted on 05/06/2022 1:41:32 AM PDT by arthurus (covfefe |x|)
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To: toddausauras
Idiots! Stay out of that war! We’ve learned nothing from Vietnam and the Middle East

They don't care. As long as there is money to be made, they don't care how many troops are killed or how many times we leave with our tails between our legs.

47 posted on 05/06/2022 4:03:03 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: livius

I don’t understand it at all. Why are they doing this?
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I don’t wish to sound like I’m preaching, but most of those who say such things are simply in denial of an obvious fact, which is that there are people in positions of power and influence in this country who despise it, and who will do anything they can to destroy it, even if by doing so they are putting their own lives at grave risk.


48 posted on 05/06/2022 4:28:14 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (It's obvious! Democrat politicians and voters are dangerously psychotic.)
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To: WoofDog123

i would regard the US as the single most dangerous great power in the world, because we no longer act rationally.
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Which is why my tagline says what it says!


49 posted on 05/06/2022 10:50:04 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (It's perfectly obvious! Democrat politicians and voters are dangerously psychotic.)
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To: rod5591

Unnamed source...big deal.


50 posted on 05/06/2022 11:08:46 AM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: farmguy

So weird...I am speedreading, and “failing health” came up as “faith healing.”


51 posted on 05/06/2022 11:18:13 AM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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