Posted on 04/17/2022 4:38:03 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
they awere already there in the form of the CIA:
belwo a long clip from the link:
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https://news.yahoo.com/cia-trained-ukrainian-paramilitaries-may-take-central-role-if-russia-invades-185258008.html Yahoo News
CIA-trained Ukrainian paramilitaries may take central role if Russia invades
Zach Dorfman
Zach Dorfman·National Security Correspondent
The CIA is overseeing a secret intensive training program in the U.S. for elite Ukrainian special operations forces and other intelligence personnel, according to five former intelligence and national security officials familiar with the initiative. The program, which started in 2015, is based at an undisclosed facility in the Southern U.S., according to some of those officials.
The CIA-trained forces could soon play a critical role on Ukraine’s eastern border, where Russian troops have massed in what many fear is preparation for an invasion. The U.S. and Russia started security talks earlier this week in Geneva but have failed thus far to reach any concrete agreement.
Ukrainian Military Forces servicemen walk on a trench on the frontline with Russia-backed separatists near to Avdiivka, Donetsk, southeastern Ukraine.
Ukrainian troops walk in a trench on the frontline with Russia-backed separatists near Avdiivka, Donetsk, southeastern Ukraine, on Jan. 8.
While the covert program, run by paramilitaries working for the CIA’s Ground Branch — now officially known as Ground Department — was established by the Obama administration after Russia’s invasion and annexation of Crimea in 2014, and expanded under the Trump administration, the Biden administration has further augmented it, said a former senior intelligence official in touch with colleagues in government.
By 2015, as part of this expanded anti-Russia effort, CIA Ground Branch paramilitaries also started traveling to the front in eastern Ukraine to advise their counterparts there, according to a half-dozen former officials.
The multiweek, U.S.-based CIA program has included training in firearms, camouflage techniques, land navigation, tactics like “cover and move,” intelligence and other areas, according to former officials.
How to characterize the program is a matter of dispute. The U.S. over three presidents has debated whether to provide military assistance to Ukraine, and how much, with discussions often focusing on whether that help is offensive or defensive in character.
U.S. officials deny that the CIA training program is, or was ever, offensively oriented. “The purpose of the training, and the training that was delivered, was to assist in the collection of intelligence,” said a current senior intelligence official.
But just what intelligence support entails, in the paramilitary context, can be ambiguous. And how this training will be applied by the Ukrainians may change rapidly with facts on the ground.
Ukrainian Territorial Defense Forces, the military reserve of the Ukrainian Armes Forces, take part in a military exercise near Kiev on December 25, 2021.
Ukrainian Territorial Defense Forces, the military reserve of the Ukrainian Armes Forces, take part in a military exercise near Kiev on December 25, 2021.
The program has involved “very specific training on skills that would enhance” the Ukrainians’ “ability to push back against the Russians,” said the former senior intelligence official.
The training, which has included “tactical stuff,” is “going to start looking pretty offensive if Russians invade Ukraine,” said the former official.
One person familiar with the program put it more bluntly. “The United States is training an insurgency,” said a former CIA official, adding that the program has taught the Ukrainians how “to kill Russians.”
The program, which does not appear to have ever been formally aimed at preparing for an insurgency, did include training that could be used for that purpose. Another former agency official described technical aspects of the program, like showing Ukrainians how to maintain secure communications behind enemy lines or in a “hostile intelligence environment” as potential “stay-behind force training.”
The current senior intelligence official strongly denied that the program was designed in any way “to assist in an insurgency.”
“Suggestions that we have trained an armed insurgency in Ukraine are simply false,” said Tammy Thorp, a CIA spokesperson.
Going back decades, the CIA has provided limited training to Ukrainian intelligence units to try and shore up an independent Kyiv and prevent Russian subversion, but cooperation “ramped up” after the Crimea invasion, said a former CIA executive.
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since the cia is trained to lie there is no telling how big an operation and what they were training the Ukrainas to do,one statement from the clip above was the followig:
One person familiar with the program put it more bluntly. “The United States is training an insurgency,” said a former CIA official, adding that the program has taught the Ukrainians how “to kill Russians.” .....................
that statement alone makes one wonder about who is really runnong the war on the Ukrainain side.
Great link goes a long way to explain what is going on over there its a complex situation that few bother to get into.
Once again are there any good guys,doubtful.
“This is going to get stronger and rougher and what really needs to happen is, Ukraine is not asking for American men and women to fight, all they’re asking for is the weapons to defend themselves,” McCarthy told Fox News chief Washington correspondent Mike Emanuel on “Fox News Sunday.”
Actually, I blame McCarthy for not standing up to the Big Steal in 2020.
If Trump was still the President, I think Putin would not have invaded, and Joe's corruption in the Ukraine would have been investigated. Pelosi would have been tossed (it was only 7 seats) and Georgia would have kept the GOP in the Senate.
Zelensky: Biden Should Visit Ukraine, I Think He Will
And then do what, Volodymyr?
Shake hands with the air?
Mumble and walk around looking for someone to talk to?
Challenge the clouds to a fist fight?
Place his fingers in his ears, and walk gingerly outside the perimeter fence imitating low budget mine detector.
Zelensky warns the world to ‘prepare’ for Putin to unleash a nuclear attack
Same to ya bud. Times like this should bring us all closer to God.
Happy Easter!
I could not attend a local sunrise service (bum leg still) so I live streamed my niece’s church, which is an hour & a half away. I love the pastor & his sermon did not disappoint. The topic was “freedom” and the joy, hope & peace that can be found in Jesus - just what I needed.
At various times, a baby in the congregation was sounding off - didn’t last long & the pastor never missed a beat. Later, I messaged my niece to let her know I tuned in & also asked the question: that wasn’t by chance Baby M, was it? LOL - it was! She sent me a cute picture of him after church - a happy little fellow (10-1/2 months old) - made my day ;-)
Pastor Brett knocked one out of the park on the proof of Jesus and will be giving 2 more services:
https://live.atheycreek.com/
The Sunday political talk shows 4/17/22
Below the FreeRepublic Sunday talk show thread link.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4055727/posts?page=5
The major talking points of the day
Highlight of Fox News Sunday:
Kevin McCarthy is guest who plays the middle at all times.
Link to Fox News Sunday Below:
No link provided yet
Highlight of Meet the Press:
Another new face of late….Rep. Fred Upton….he did a good job.
Link to Meet the Press show below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNl-UbBla74
Highlight of Face the Nation
My Senator, Chris Coons. Boring and not too smart.
Below the link to Face the Nation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHkala-AcpY
Highlight of This Week with George Stephanopolous
Ukraine Prime Minister-Deny Shmyhal says Ukraine will never surrender to Russia
Link to This Week below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSx-aUOpsV0
Highlight of State of the Union
They are now singing songs in honor of the refugees
Link to State of the Union below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMOBmC1Pbpc
Sunday Morning Futures:
A new guy on the Sunday shows-Rep. Rob Wittman….did very good job.
Link below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGUBvsUQbNI
Well, Russia gave the Uke’s remaing in Mariupol till sundown to surrender.
Then, we find out number and nationality of foreign mercs in Mariupol.
Then we find out who is paying the mercs. (if any), and why.
One ex-British infantry guy posted some videos from Mariupol to Telegram
Happy Easter Qiviut and many more!!
Most people don’t even realize what a disaster Ukraine was before the war. Now no telling who runs what, who is doing the fighting, what is true,what is theatre, what is false, everything is up for speculation. Once again no good guys there just millions of innocents trying to duck and cover.
He did a good job of voting to impeach Trump as well. And that is why he is retiring
What is going on in Ukraine is not what the MSM is pushing out. JMHO
Things may not be as they seem.
Some from inside Ukraine are saying that the Russians have been strategically removing NWO facilities in Ukraine, including several bio weapons labs similar to the one in Wuhan.
In addition, some believe: we won’t hear any truth from the MSM and definitely not from our swampy administration who have been using Ukraine as a money laundering machine for years.
Truth or Fake News?
We must ALL do our own research to seek TRUTH.
Check out the link in my post #17.
Perfect post truth all the way.Great job.
Actually, Zelensky wants a partner for his "piano playing with penis" TV routine.
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