The Russians getting “their collective butts wiped” is probably BS, I don’t see them losing this. I guess it could happen. Look at us, we got our collective butts wiped recently by a collection of backwards goat herders.
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I disagree vehemently about the US in Afghan - that’s on Biden, not the Military; no troops lost for over a year, Taliban on the run, Bagram secure. Then Russia Joe’s deliberate disaster.
The Russians getting their collective butts wiped is a reality, even if you don’t want to see it. No one loses that many men and equipment in 40+ days and can still claim to be a first rate military power. No one. And don’t go pointing at the UA losses - they are not supposed to be a first rate power, but third rate at best. That just compounds the Russian’s losses.
Biden was responsible as CIC but I don’t think anybody outside the US sees it as anything but a loss for us. It doesn’t make me happy to say that, I did 25 years in the Army and more than a couple years in Afghanistan but we didn’t win. It doesn’t matter how vehemently one disagrees with that assessment. The facts are that after 20 years of wasting our bold and treasure the Taliban hold all of Afghanistan and much of our equipment and we even left a bunch of Americans there. I would say that we lost. I used to serve on the old Inter-German border and back in the days we trained to fight the Russian led Warsaw Pact Armies. The take away for me was that Russians are historically concerned with achieving objectives, not so much avoiding collateral damage or casualties. They aren’t like us in that respect. We’ll see if that still holds and how this incursion plays out. I have actually been surprised by their restraint so far.