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To: Vigilanteman
Churchill would make the short list for "greatest man of the 20th century" but he had his flaws. Zelensky doesn't have to walk on water to be viewed as doing for his country what Churchill did for the British in 1940.

Why are there no comparisons of Putin to Lincoln? Lincoln didn't recognize the right of the Confederate States to be an independent country. Putin doesn't recognize Ukraine's right to independence. Lincoln demonized the Southerners as "rebels." Putin demonizes the Ukrainians as "Nazis." It took Lincoln 4 years to conquer the South. Maybe four years from now Putin will have won and Kiev will look like Richmond did in April 1865.

53 posted on 04/07/2022 6:41:54 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

“Why are there no comparisons of Putin to Lincoln?”

As one of the few in the known world to have Lincoln in my “Top 5 worst Presidents list”, I appreciate your train of thought here. My forebears went through hell fighting, brother against brother, father against son, crushing hearts of mothers whose families were destroyed because they settled around the Cumberland Gap before state lines were firm. They had a little piece of land to survive off and a long history in the region - no slaves, no politics, but conscripted and threatened with death if they failed to fight. So many things not taught in schools anymore.

Proud of my hillbilly roots even if the family tree is uncomfortably straight…


93 posted on 04/07/2022 8:27:14 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Verginius Rufus
The reality is that a number of the Confederate State were very ham-handed in how they handled leaving the union with less than transparent votes. Large swaths of the Confederacy wanted nothing to do with it, including East Tennessee, the Huntsville area of Alabama and most of Appalachian Virginia and North Carolina.

Lincoln messed up big time in the days following Ft. Sumter when he decided to raise an army to invade the south rather than make a localized operation to punish South Carolina and retake the fort. In 20-20 hindsight, had he done that, the divisions within the southern states might have been cleverly exploited to avoid the war. But there were hotheads on both sides who didn't want that outcome.

Lincoln's first inaugural address just six weeks before Ft. Sumter outlined a clear and just path to peace. His second inaugural address, just six weeks before his assassination, outlined a clear and just reconstruction. The fact that neither could be realized by subsequent events that he could not foresee does NOT make him a despotic villain of even the same class as Vladimir Putin.

98 posted on 04/07/2022 9:35:12 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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