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To: silverleaf
Wild claims of bodies randomly tossed about every 20 feet…some with groceries and fresh fruit still preserved.

Yeah, fresh groceries and fruit, fresh bodies, crisis actors, fake videos! Fake witnesses!/s

STFU!


71 posted on 04/04/2022 10:43:47 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Russians were pretty well-known to rape anything that moved in WWII


80 posted on 04/04/2022 11:08:22 PM PDT by roving
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

If you really care about these people…don’t you want real justice instead of falling for a contrived outrage?

If you had been following the Russian goals and strategy of dealing with civilians in first Syria and now here, you might recognize that this makes absolutely no rational sense whatsoever. The Russians have the goal of separating their military targets from civilians, leaving behind new political governing bodies free from the ISIS and now Azov types….as they just did in Mariupol where about 150 council members elected a new mayor by show of hands.

The only sources saying the Russian goal is total defeat of Ukraine and destruction of its cities….is Western propo.

Only one side in the Uke war has been killing Uke citizens en masse …. since 2014. If these photos are from Donbas 2015, will you still be outraged?

Unlike the Uke neo nationalists, Russia has no goal of “ ethnically cleansing” citizens by their language culture ties and sympathies. They’ve made it clear they feel historical culture affinities with Ukrainians in general, not just the 30% Russian speakers.

Even Uke soldiers are being given the option to lay down arms and go home…unless they are mercenaries or members of the neo-nazi ultranationalist right, or if they refuse to surrender. Then no mercy. Battlefield annihilation or war trials.

Russia cleans out military units and criminally savage extremist groups in these towns, intends to leave behind a reformed Uke political body, then move on. They did not bring sufficient troops to occupy. Perhaps a strategic error as the Ukes extremists move back into those towns behind then and kill “ collaborators’. Mariupol will be a bloodbath if the Russians don’t leave security behind. Everyone who did not fight to the death will be treated as a traitor.

After our US track record over many countries, of replacing regimes by force and by stealth, we sure can’t claim its not a legitimate goal. Even if we disagree on the foreign and security policy that the next Uke regime will adopt,

Use your brain, don’t be manipulated by our pitiful propagandized Western MEdia.


96 posted on 04/05/2022 8:11:07 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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