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Is Orbán really Putin’s lapdog? [No] Here is what Hungary does and does not do for Ukraine
Daily News Hungary ^ | 3.28.2022 | John Wood

Posted on 04/03/2022 8:16:30 PM PDT by libh8er

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has regularly slammed those European and NATO leaders who refuse to accept all his demands since the Russian invasion against Ukraine began. However, Zelenskiy’s attack on Orbán during his address to the European Council members last Friday was exceptional. Was the Ukrainian president right? Is PM Orbán a close ally of President Putin who should decide whether or not he supports Ukraine in the war?

Zelenskiy wants to see everybody on the front

Ukraine is at war. Hundreds of thousands of their citizens are fighting against the Russian invaders. Russians are destroying their cities, killing their families, and threatening the state’s sovereignty. For this reason, one can understand why President Zelenskiy wants to collect all the help he can get. That means weapons, rockets, drones, military equipment in the first place. It is not only the Americans who receive a lot of criticism from Zelenskiy. The Ukrainian president also slams Germany quite frequently. The former disagrees with establishing a no-fly zone over Ukraine because Washington argues it would lead to WWIII. The latter made it clear that Berlin does not support Russian energy import bans because that would mean skyrocketing heating prices and an economic breakdown.

Mass killings

Hungary’s Orbán cleared almost at the beginning of the war that Hungary would help with everything but would not allow military equipment to cross its territory towards Ukraine. Furthermore, the current Hungarian government would not send soldiers to Ukraine either. Joint opposition’s Márki-Zay said he would do that provided NATO decided so. Zelenskiy spoke directly to PM Orbán in his speech last Friday for minutes. He told him that he had been to Budapest many times and adored the city. He said that Russia committed mass killings in Mariupol which was similar to what happened to the Jews during the Holocaust. “And you hesitate whether to impose sanctions or not? And you hesitate whether to let weapons through or not? There is no time to hesitate,” he concluded.

Is President Zelenskiy right? Is Orbán really hesitating?

András Rácz, a research fellow at the Institute for Strategic and Defense Studies, replied to all that in a post. He said that Ukraine received hundreds of thousands of tonnes of weapons. Moreover, they got more than 20 thousand anti-tank rockets, 2,000 air defence missiles, sniper rifles, guns, ammunition, and self-protection equipment. Hungary allowed such convoys containing lethal weapons to cross its territory. The Hungarian government only denied them crossing the Hungarian-Ukrainian border. However, if the shipment is non-lethal (e.g. personal protection equipment, fuel, etc.), they can go to Ukraine directly from Hungary. As a result, Hungary helps Ukraine with everything except for allowing lethal weapons to cross its border with Ukraine. However, experts agree if somebody wanted to send such equipment to Ukraine, choosing the short Ukrainian-Hungarian border would be the worst decision. That is because the roads are terrible in Transcarpathia. Moreover, such equipment would have to cross the Carpathian mountains. Regarding the question of the Russian energy import ban, the government believes that, without oil and gas, the economy would stop. That is the same as what Germany’s new leftist-green government says. Therefore, Berlin does not support such proposals either.

Humanitarian aid

Finally, President Zelenskiy forgot to mention in his speech that Hungary welcomed and provided information, help, and care for more than half a million Ukrainian refugees. Furthermore, the country’s aid organisations sent tens of tonnes of food, medicine, hygiene products, etc. for Ukraine. As a result, one can say that Hungary does everything the country is capable of in the current situation to help Ukraine and the Ukrainian citizens.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: orban; putin; ukraine
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1 posted on 04/03/2022 8:16:30 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er

No. Urban is for Hungary first. As a nation’s leader should be.


2 posted on 04/03/2022 8:20:53 PM PDT by packagingguy
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Ukraine could desperately use ex-Soviet tanks and engineering vehicles from Hungary.


3 posted on 04/03/2022 8:26:15 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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No. Urban is for Hungary first. As a nation’s leader should be.

Be certain of one thing:

No matter how badly the overpaid under-brained Western neocon scumglobalists screw this thing up, they'll be compensated well enough to cover the food and fuel inflation.

And you and I won't.

4 posted on 04/03/2022 8:29:48 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: libh8er

I guess the “journalist” forgot that 14,000 Russians have been killed in Ukraine since 2014, most of them civilians. I’m sure those numbers have increased since February. Ukrainians aren’t choirboys either. 🤣


5 posted on 04/03/2022 8:33:25 PM PDT by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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To: libh8er

Orban is going to face a color-revolution soon.


6 posted on 04/03/2022 8:39:37 PM PDT by PGR88
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Orban is going to face a color-revolution soon.

Revolution is coming alright, but in places where leaders don't listen to the people they serve, but instead choose to serve themselves or their NWO masters.
7 posted on 04/03/2022 8:53:01 PM PDT by Neo_objectivist
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To: libh8er
Pretty sure Prba hates Putin. But he is the leader of his country, he has to be diplomatic.

By the way, Hungarians are not Slavs.

8 posted on 04/03/2022 9:02:00 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: libh8er
According to Scott Ritter, Hungary will not get involved, but they will inhibit Poland from stabbing Russia in the back.

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9 posted on 04/03/2022 9:09:00 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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No he won’t, he has the support of the majority of Hungarians.


10 posted on 04/03/2022 9:18:16 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Orban is going to face a color-revolution soon.

It would be the irony of the last hundred years if Russia helped Hungary quash a color revolution...

11 posted on 04/03/2022 9:20:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: libh8er

Good Documentary

Is Hungary Unfairly Demonised in the West?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiUNStlcSsY


12 posted on 04/03/2022 9:34:42 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Orban won the election yesterday; 54.5% with 75% of the votes counted. Sadness and sorrow in the major EU capitals (Brussels, Paris, Berlin etc)

:-)


13 posted on 04/03/2022 11:14:01 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Prince of Space

Actually, about half have been pro Ukrainian citizens, militia and Ukrainian military.


14 posted on 04/03/2022 11:15:07 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Prince of Space

A figure of 14000 brought to you by the propagandist regime that said absolutely no civilians were even harmed by paper cuts in the withdrawal from Bucha.

That reckons 1400 Azov goons totally flattened their own city just for PR value with bombs or missiles they don’t have fired from aircraft they don’t have, but with, er, grenades and small arms.

That gives us the staggering gem of implausibility that is Mariupol Maternity Hospital. It’s so pathetic an argument that even Vicky Pollard wouldn’t attempt it.

“Yeah but no but yeah but no, wait, Lavrov told you weeks ago that the Mariupol hospital didn’t have no patients or doctors in it because Azov and 1000 willing actors staged ot all ‘cos Russia heard it on Telegram yeah so Russia didn’t bomb it but it did because Azov were there but it didn’t because we don’t bomb hospitals but we do bomb Azov but here’s a video of one of those patients on our own telly and she was pregnant and she was there and she was injured and this proves we were right because it was Azov’s fault.”

Russia’s private military contractors have more hardcore nazis in them than Azov did.


15 posted on 04/04/2022 12:51:26 AM PDT by MalPearce
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16 posted on 04/04/2022 3:57:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: libh8er

Hungary gets over 60% of its gas and oil from Russia. They have long-term agreements to hold pricing.

Hungary has not been affected by the recent spike in fuel prices as a result.

Orban feels that Ukraine is not Hungary’s fight. Yet Hungary has taken more Ukrainian refugees than any nation except Poland.


17 posted on 04/04/2022 4:08:22 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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Is Orbán really Putin’s lapdog? [No] Here is what Hungary does and does not do for Ukraine

Yes. Orban is angry Ukraine wants Ukrainians to learn the language and has blocked Ukraine from getting cyber security from NATO.

Hungary has blocked Ukraine’s membership in NATO Cooperative Cyber Defense Centre of Excellence

https://globalsentinelng.com/hungary-blocks-ukraines-nato-cyber-defense-center-membership/

18 posted on 04/04/2022 4:30:08 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: Prince of Space

‘14,000 russians’
That begs the question - what were 14000 russians doing in ukraine ?
if true


19 posted on 04/04/2022 5:09:44 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives )
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To: dfwgator

Excellent documentary. Thanks for sharing.


20 posted on 04/04/2022 6:27:39 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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