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To: BenLurkin

Just to clarify: in Germany incitement to crimes is illegal. Waging a war of aggression is a crime (Section 13 Code of Crimes against International Law) The Russians are doing just that in Ukraine.

That`s probably what Eisenreich meant when he said freedom of speech ends where criminal law begins.This, by the way, is exactly what our constitution says: Your freedom of speech ends when you insult people or otherwise break criminal law.

So there is no new law making “Z” illegal. Some German states just voiced their intention to prosecute war sympathizers using the Z symbol on the assumption that this use is (or at least could be) incitement to a war of aggression. Whether they`ll really do it remains to be seen. Personally i rather doubt they`d get convictions if they tried.


52 posted on 03/28/2022 11:47:54 AM PDT by MoraBlack
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To: MoraBlack
That's where he has it backwards. The law ends when it gets to free speech. Free speech doesn't end when it gets to the law.

This is why “hate speech’ laws are overtly unconstitutional. You simply can not (Constitutionally) criminalize mere speech.

As for Russia is waging a war of aggression. It certainly looks that way to me, but as of now I am unaware of any place where the question has even been adjudicated, let alone decided. So Fritz is jumping the gun if that's his excuse.

And by the way, there is no legal prohibition against insulting people that I'm aware of. If there were 90% of us would be in jail, yes? 8^)

58 posted on 03/28/2022 12:05:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: MoraBlack
This, by the way, is exactly what our constitution says: Your freedom of speech ends when you insult people or otherwise break criminal law.

So pathetically dumb - then others wonder why I get so mad reading here.

Someone asked me last night why I won't call/label myself a conservative. I replied that I won't be associated with doucheholes like Sean Hannity, and approx. 1/3 of the membership here - that's where the morons, shut-ins and silly jabberers live.

That's your demo.... thanks for the justification.

60 posted on 03/28/2022 12:08:15 PM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: MoraBlack

“Your freedom of speech ends when you insult people”

I have 4,539 Freepers who have insulted me over the years.

So, should I report them all to the local authorities?


74 posted on 03/28/2022 1:22:02 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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