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To: FlingWingFlyer

The propagandists brainwash people by simultaneously delivering contradictory messages:

(1) Evil Russia has terrorized civilians throughout Ukraine in a vicious attack.

(2) Russia is stuck in the mud and is being defeated with high casualties.

or

(1) Ukrainian civilians are standing and fighting the evil invaders.

(2) Millions of Ukraine civilians are fleeing into Poland and neighboring countries.

That is the whole point of brainwashing—destroy the victims ability to figure out fact from fiction.


11 posted on 03/18/2022 9:01:39 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

All of the items you mentioned can be true at the same time.


49 posted on 03/18/2022 9:27:44 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (remorse)
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To: cgbg

Nothing contradictory at all.

1: It’s Russian ground forces who are stuck in the mud. Missiles aren’t.

2. Most are staying and fighting. Some are fleeing.

No contradiction at all.


79 posted on 03/18/2022 10:01:23 AM PDT by willfulknowledge
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To: cgbg

None of the statements in your post are mutually exclusive.


91 posted on 03/18/2022 10:27:42 AM PDT by oldskoolwargamer2
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To: cgbg

No one is claiming that Russians are terrorizing citizens throughout Ukraine. The attacks are in the east and southeast, even according to the MSM. That doesn’t preclude the Russians being stuck in the mud with high casualties. The fact that they aren’t overrunning the entire country supports the idea that the Russians are bogged down. How can such an overwhelming force not be in Kyiv yet?

The vast majority of the millions of refugees are women with children and the elderly. That can be true at the same time that most Ukrainian men and quite a few women are standing and fighting. The population of Ukraine is over 40,000. Around 2.5 million have fled. That leaves a lot of people to fight. Again, your two points aren’t mutually exclusive.


110 posted on 03/18/2022 11:24:44 AM PDT by CrazyCatChick (DEATH POKE!)
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