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To: DownInFlames

This war is weird....the 40 mile truck convoy makes no sense on either side

If Putin was was so hot and heavy to Slaughter Ukraine... why would he have then just sit there... but the flip side why we’re the Ukranian not riping the hell out of these Russian just sitting there

For all the talk of the Vicious Russians and the Ferocious Ukrainian defense these two sides sure do tiptoe around each other a lot

It sounds like the Russian going light and slow and the Ukrainian forces being not that Ferocious


6 posted on 03/14/2022 8:38:27 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: tophat9000

“these two sides sure do tiptoe around each other a lot”

The “experts” can’t figure it out because they prefer name calling and finger pointing and because they don’t actually know ^%$#.


11 posted on 03/14/2022 8:44:32 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: tophat9000

“these two sides sure do tiptoe around each other a lot”

The “experts” can’t figure it out because they prefer name calling and finger pointing and because they don’t actually know ^%$#.


12 posted on 03/14/2022 8:44:32 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: tophat9000
It sounds like the Russian going light and slow and the Ukrainian forces being not that Ferocious

Russians don't want / can't enter the cities. Their army isn't that big and they don't want to flatten the cities to take them. Logistics over such a large country is difficult. Ukraine's army is the product of a corrupt and divided government, kept alive by USA weapons, prodding and propaganda. Its main force in Donbas is already surrounded. No news is coming out of there

Its like two drunks circling each other

16 posted on 03/14/2022 8:54:54 PM PDT by PGR88
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Both sides are severely hampered by a lack of mobility: the Russian heavy vehicles run out of fuel and break down faster than they can fix them, which is why so many are abandoned. The softer vehicles are sitting ducks. The same factors affect the Ukrainians. Both are also affected by the mud.

This is why you see pauses and resumptions of Russian advances. Occasionally the Ukrainians force them to retreat or cut off supply lines.

The Ukrainians are also fighting very smart. They never seek open combat against superior Russian numbers, nor do they try to hold big perimeters. They wait for big masses of Russian equipment to split up and attack them in detail. If the Russians try a big mass of vehicles to attack in a single column, they're sitting ducks. The Ukrainains also seem to have very good intel on Russian positions and often seem to be able to hammer Russian command posts.

The Russians pound the crap out of Ukrainian cities because that's all they can do: no precision munitions nor even apparently much effective artillery. So they use area bombardment against a enemy dispersed in small units over a wide area, which fails.

Then the block-by-block slog begins again.

Russian morale or aggressiveness seems poor as does the training. The Ukrainians may be poorly trained but they have the advantage of knowing the terrain and are fighting for their own homes, sometimes literally.

I read about a possible first today: a Ukrainian was dragged to his local gun club to try to force him to cough up the list of firearm owners. He blew himself up along with some of his captors with a grenade. Look for more of this and IEDs if this drags on.

19 posted on 03/14/2022 9:04:27 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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For all the talk of the Vicious Russians and the Ferocious Ukrainian defense these two sides sure do tiptoe around each other a lot,,,,,

The Ukes claim to have killed 14000 russians in 15 days. With a population of 140M that would equate to about 33,000 US dead in a 15 day war.

The Ukes admit to 1600 dead. With a population of about 40M that would equate to about 13000 US dead in 15 days.

Do you really think they’re “tiptoing?”


26 posted on 03/14/2022 9:24:06 PM PDT by Ceebass (USA RIP 1776-2021)
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