[dfwgator]

Do you think those Red Army soldiers were fighting the Nazis because they loved Stalin? They fought because they had no choice, they had an enemy that wanted them all dead. At that point who cares what you’re fighting for?

[Steve_Seattle]

"They fought because they had no choice, they had an enemy that wanted them all dead. At that point who cares what you’re fighting for?"

I don't think Putin wants all - or even very many - of the Ukrainians dead. I think he wants control of their land and resources

[dljordan]

“They fought because they had no choice, they had an enemy that wanted them all dead. “

Kind of like the American deplorables and the U.S. government.