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To: oblomov

Since the Cold War ended, the US has become a cartoon of itself. We’ve become what we used to denounce.
***Whatever. Eyeroll.🙄

These nation-building efforts
***This is NOT nation building. Ukraine is already a nation. They’re being bullied by Russia, who is already a nation. Completely different circumstances than nation-building.

are pathetic, the exact thing that the Founding Fathers rejected as an element of US foreign policy.
***They had their own nation to build. Calling this a nation-building exercise is just a gigantic red herring.

Maybe Germany and France can do more than send helmets, if they care so much about Ukraine.
***I agree with that sentiment. The issue we are discussing is what WE should do. Trump tried to hold NATO feet to the fire, getting them to pay their bills. That was the right thing to do. And it is also the right thing to do that we would allow Ukraine into NATO as a new dues-paying country, and the right thing to do alongside that is to set up some programs for excising all the corruption in that country.


83 posted on 02/23/2022 3:07:39 PM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Kevmo

Biden Admin will destroy evidence of Ukraine corruption, not lessen it, because the Biden family itself is deeply involved in it.

I have zero confidence in the US President or any of the other NATO leaders.

There is no possibility of a good outcome with the current leadership in place in the US and in Europe.

The last thing the US needs is to increase its international entanglements. If Europe needs Ukrainian and Russian gas, let them resolve the issue. We have nothing to gain except another misspent trillion or two in debt.


88 posted on 02/23/2022 4:35:11 PM PST by oblomov
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