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To: PIF

Castration is banned in Muslim lands. Eunuch slaves were castrated before arrival. There would not be a building marked “castration”, even if the practice were carried out. Castorium is not a word. The word castratorium appears in one article online referencing the “castratoriums of Iberia.” It might be that author’s coinage.


54 posted on 02/13/2022 8:30:35 AM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: heartwood

Castration is banned in Muslim lands.

Glad you know what is what in “muslim lands” because it will come as a shock to Moroccans, Turks and many others. Regardless of the spelling of the word, it was in French 50 years ago, so I could be a little off on the spelling.

Well there is or was such a building with such a citation on it. So I guess you are trying to say I made it up. Next you’ll want a link, a source citation. Just buzz off to what ever unpleasant place you crawled out from under.


56 posted on 02/13/2022 8:39:46 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: heartwood; PIF; All

As the quote below points out castration has aa long multicultural history:

“First it is important to put this question into perspective. Castration is genital mutilation. We must be truthful about the entire subject of both male and female genital mutilation.

On that note, Female and Male mutilation of slaves or people is not a Muslim creation. They both existed in other parts of the world before Islam. Eunuchs were found in Greece, Rome, China and other parts of the world before Islam. The word Eunuch comes from Greek words.

Muslims were not the only culture to use, buy and sell eunuchs after Islam came into being. Both Male and Female genital mutilation was a practice recorded in history in the Egyptian Dynasties. Eunuchs to this day exist in India.

The Roman Catholic Church in Europe itself use eunuchs as solo male singers or in choirs and operas. This happened into the 20th century. A recording exists of a eunuch singing from about .

As for Eunuchs and Islam: While it is Haram or against the Koran to castrate anyone, we much not forget the HUGE FACTOR OF MUSLIM DEMAND for castrated male slaves. This demand fueled the supply of eunuchs so castration was done by “others” to these slaves. Then they were sold or transported to the Muslim dominant areas. There is no doubt that the rulers and Caliphs bought and kept eunuchs in their harems. Rich and Wealthy landowners and merchants also bought and sold eunuchs. These worked in their households.”

From: https://www.quora.com/When-did-Muslims-start-the-practice-of-castrating-their-male-slaves-How-wide-spread-was-it-When-did-they-stop-doing-so-Has-the-practice-been-officially-condemned-by-all-Muslim-nations

As for Islamic Castration, the Vatican is also implicated for using castration to creat men with soprano voices: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/aug/14/humanities.highereducation

“New research suggests that the employment of castrati was tolerated by the Vatican as late as 1959, long after other states had banned it as barbaric.” Wow, right around the time I was graduating from college! Of course after naving deprived them of their manhood, it would have been doubly cruel to deprive them of employment.


64 posted on 02/13/2022 1:14:07 PM PST by gleeaikin (,Question authority!)
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