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Oh wtf, why is Rubio getting involved
1 posted on 02/06/2022 8:33:45 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Of course “vice presidents can’t simply decide not to certify an election”. No one with half a brain thinks that.

However, when it appears that there has been serious and purposeful fraud that may have ruined the legitimacy of an election the VP is one of the firewalls that our Founding Fathers put into place to bring that perfidy to light and perhaps start a process to correct the situation.


28 posted on 02/06/2022 8:47:33 AM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
vice presidents do not have the power to not certify an election

Presidents are appointed (indirectly) by State Legislatures.

Please show me where in the Constitution any element of the Federal government (President, VP, Senate, House, USSC) is granted the responsibility OR the authority to "certify" the incoming President.

You can't, because it isn't there.

Congress can choose between competing slates of Electors, when any such exist (there were none in 2021). Congress could, I suppose, flee to West Virginia and refuse to count the electoral votes, but the President-Elect would still present himself to a Federal judge at noon on January 20 and be sworn in, his right to the office being NO WAY dependent on action or inaction by Congress.

I don't know how many times on this pro-Constitution website I have seen people talking about Pence, or Congress, "certifying" the election as if that was a thing.

It isn't, and it never has been.

30 posted on 02/06/2022 8:48:31 AM PST by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Rubio you are showing you’re too stupid to even be a senator....andthats a pretty low bar.


31 posted on 02/06/2022 8:48:44 AM PST by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Because Rubio is good on a lot of things, and this can only be helpful to Trump.

I think Trump made a lot of serious mistakes in being so insulting to his Republican opponents, and he was particularly nasty to Rubio. Trump forgot that he was going to have to work with them later. He was harsher on his GOP rivals than on the Dems.

But Rubio has been pretty good on a lot of issues, and he’s certainly right on this one.

Criticize people when they’re wrong, support them when they’re right.


34 posted on 02/06/2022 8:51:25 AM PST by livius
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To: ChicagoConservative27
he concluded that vice presidents do not have the power to not certify an election.

Then he doesn't have the power to certify either senator? Why not just have the bellhop do the job then instead of a high priced vice president?

If we don't have election integrity marco we don't have a country. And at this point we don't have election integrity....

Grow up little man.

37 posted on 02/06/2022 8:52:50 AM PST by eeriegeno (Checks and balances??? What checks and balances?)
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Straw man, rubio.


42 posted on 02/06/2022 8:56:07 AM PST by curious7
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Rubot is getting involved because the heat is getting too hot for Mike Pence, so the Deep State has to call out their other whipping boy.


43 posted on 02/06/2022 8:56:28 AM PST by KC_Lion
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Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) on Sunday said “vice presidents can't simply decide not to certify an election,” breaking with former President Trump after he suggested that then-Vice President Mike Pence had the ability to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

Rubio is carelessly framing the issue. All the RINOs do that.

Pence was asked by over 100 state legislators to wait so that the legislatures of those states could use their plenary constitutional powers to determine if those slates of electors were valid.

44 posted on 02/06/2022 8:56:56 AM PST by FreeReign
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What is the purpose of certification if non-certification isn’t an option?


45 posted on 02/06/2022 8:57:37 AM PST by SaxxonWoods ("If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies in yourself." - Minquass)
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To: ChicagoConservative27; Joe Brower

That’s quite alright, Boobio. Sending disputed electoral slates back to the states to work out would not necessarily overturn or decertify an election.


49 posted on 02/06/2022 9:04:35 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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What. No backup plan? No valid election if the vp can’t or won’t? Bull,


54 posted on 02/06/2022 9:07:12 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ChicagoConservative27
It's funny how Republicans who were recently interviewed at the Republican event (where VP Pence spoke) all said basically the same thing, paraphrased: "The election's over, Biden clearly won in a fair election, so we should all just move on."

LOL. That's exactly what all far-left Democrats/RINOs and the entire MSM have been repeatedly saying for the past two years: The election's over (nothing to see here) - it's time for all Americans to "move on."

Far-left Dems/RINOs (and the far-left MSM) are really good at brainwashing American voters 24/7/365. Even Republican voters are cluelessly repeating the same talking points. Rep. Sen. Ted Cruz recently called Trump's January 6 Republican supporters "terrorists." And we could go down the list of many other Republicans mimicking far-left Dem/RINO talking points about the "election" but at this point, we've already heard too much brainwashing language by the Dems/RINOs themselves.

Very successful, extremely popular U.S. President Trump "lost" to "the worst Presidential candidate" in American history (as Trump accurately describes Biden). During his 2020 campaign, Trump even said to his huge rally crowds, If I lose to "the worst candidate" in U.S. Presidential history, I will be really "embarrassed." Senile Sleepy Joe mostly hid in his basement during his entire "campaign" while President Trump vigorously campaigned to large enthusiastic crowds throughout the country. Nevertheless, senile Sleepy Joe "won" the election with the most votes ever - 81 Million votes - making senile Sleepy Joe "the most popular President in U.S. history," by far. (Well, that previous statement is the election storyline the far-left Dems/RINOs desperately want the American people to somehow believe.)

55 posted on 02/06/2022 9:07:32 AM PST by gw-ington (My neo-pronouns: she, him, it, yours, they're, senile, puppet, hyena, headboard, stolen, election.)
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It has been a busy morning for the RINO’S on the Sunday talk shows.

Here are the threads:

@ChadPergram Barrasso on Fox: I voted to certify the election and I think Mike Pence did his constitutional duty that day. It’s not the Congress that elects the President, it is the American people

Former Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ) said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week” that former President Donald Trump “told the truth by accident,” when he said he wanted then-President-elect Joe Biden’s win “overturned.” Friday former Vice President Mike Pence rebuffed the idea he could have overturned the election by refusing the state electors on January 6, 2021.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) on Sunday said “vice presidents can’t simply decide not to certify an election,” breaking with former President Trump


58 posted on 02/06/2022 9:16:30 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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If the VP has only one course of action, then why is his certification required or necessary?


60 posted on 02/06/2022 9:18:09 AM PST by beekay (Justice for Ashli Babbitt! Say her name.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

For any presiding officer of the electoral college to deliberately not act to address a fraudulent election is treason and Pence knows it. January 6 was no magic date requiring certification and Pence knows it. He is a coward and a traitor and a disgrace to his military son.


69 posted on 02/06/2022 9:29:37 AM PST by iontheball
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Maybe, but when teh electors are chosen improperly, they should be decertified.

The Constitution specifies that “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress...” and at least five states conducted the election in a manner NOT conducted “in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct,” but instead imposed by courts, election bureaucrats, or governors.

Had those electors been disqualified due to being improperly selected, President Trump would have had a majority of those remaining.


72 posted on 02/06/2022 9:37:38 AM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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I guess Rubio forgets what state he lives in.


82 posted on 02/06/2022 10:28:54 AM PST by jersey117
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Who took him out of his box?


83 posted on 02/06/2022 10:38:44 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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When he comes up for re-election, we Floridians really do need to get Marco Rubio out and a more trustworthy conservative Republican in.

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85 posted on 02/06/2022 10:55:30 AM PST by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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Hey Rubio, perhaps you too want to participate in Nuremberg Trials 2.0— in the same way as the Nazis participated in the first one?


86 posted on 02/06/2022 11:46:22 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (HONK HONK, Clown World! Let the CONVOYS roll!)
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