[Jim Noble]

* Arm Ukraine - Yes
* Provide training and intelligence - Yes
* Support our allies who want to help - Yes

That makes the United States a belligerent, so:

* Send Americans to die in another war - Hell NoYes.

You can't, as grandma would say, have your cake and eat it, too.

[Renfrew]

Never heard of a proxy war? You may be younger, but in the Cold War years there were a lot of them.