Posted on 01/20/2022 3:03:35 PM PST by GQuagmire
Still wondering about nosocomial cases...
And why the enemedia has absolutely no interest in the question....
Rapid antigen testing as a reactive response to surges in nosocomial SARS-CoV-2 outbreak risk
Three guesses who the superspreaders are...
And after reading that I'm put in mind of a quote by WC Fields...
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****.
Oh they keep them alive.
For a while.
BTW, I am all for vaccines, real vaccines that actually work and benefit mankind. But these are not vaccines whatsoever. They neither work nor do they benefit mankind. et, you still fail to even acknowledge that simple fact.
I am promoting the truth and sending out warning signals about our losses of freedoms, that is my only skin in the game you ignorant little sad excuse for a human being. You had better start seeking out the Lord rather than wasting your time seeking out useless statistics relating to the plandemic. It's not a pandemic at all.
I suspect much damage has been done, and people such as yourself will be the ones that need to be "deprogrammed". For this is nothing more than a flu, only the flu is even more dangerous to young children than this bio-weapon that has been unleashed upon the world by the CCP has been.
The real danger from this man made virus, is the authoritarian response leaders of the supposedly free world have adopted, and the idiots like yourself who have applauded and encouraged their exercise of that authoritarian power.
You were trying to paint yourself as objective in order to carry on in conversation with gas_dr by saying you have no skin in the game.
That’s not true.
Most of your reply to me is YOUR opinion and Not accepted as facts by the majority of the country, and world.
I don’t quote stats accept on the rare occasion to point out that (for example) there are normally over 40,000 cases of Bell’s Palsy per year every year before Covid. So the faux shock and awe of blaming 2,000-3,000 cases on vaccines is ridiculous.
Nothing DailyExpose.UK, Tenpenny, Kirsch, or any Blog has claimed is going to happen has panned out. The are pushers of fear and drama all for subscribers, or clicks at their respective web-sites.
Meanwhile popular Right Wing radio personalities (4 at last count) that were against vaccines, a well know anti-Covid-vaccine leader on the internet, and other people known to the anti-Covid-vaccine community have died from Covid, including a woman recently that refused treatment when she went to the hospital because she couldn’t breath anymore.
Numerous Freepers here have had different experiences with Covid, some serious some mild. Even death has been reported.
But you seem to ignore all of that in favor of information from people you didn’t know until a few months ago. You pretend it’s not happening and fail to see the truth from Freepers you have known for many years, some for decades in favor of people that appeared out of nowhere on a Blog or Twitter.
Even Dr. Malone is vaccinated. Yet he compels you not to get vaccinated. Does that really make sense to you?
Yeah, yeah he had “special” reasons why he got vaccinated and I’ve heard all of them as they morphed over time.
He didn’t know the vaccine was that bad…..which didn’t reflect well on his expertise, so that changed to……..because of his age and health history, now he claims he got vaccinated so he could travel to seminars.
Those reasons are as good as any, really. We all have our own reasons for getting vaccinated or not.
But Malone is still vaccinated and YOU ARE NOT. That’s amazing.
I’m against all mandates and forced vaccinations.
Vaccines like all medical procedures and treatments should always be a choice.
There. Now that I said that I can move along with today’s life and not Doom Scroll FreeRepublic looking for more and more anti-vaccine news.
I suggest for your own good health to perhaps take a break from “saving us all from our own decisions” and read a good book (not vaccine or Covid related!) or even watch a good movie (again not vaccine or Covid related).
Honestly………at this point everyone has made a decision on vaccines. People have been vaccinated and made their choice. People that don’t want to be vaccinated are not.
Why post and even some here re-post and re-re-post the same Thread (s) over and over and go on and on about something that people already decided?
What possible motive could one have to continue to push this agenda that people have decided on by now?
Who are you trying to save?
That’s why I conclude it’s not for other people. It’s for yourself.
Daily confirmation that you’re making the right choice by not getting vaccinated. Scratching that daily itch of obsession.
My suggestion is real, try taking a break and see if you feel better, different, back to your normal.
I actually disagree. There is plenty of asymptomatic. Look at the omicron R0 and the South Africa and British experiences. I have personally seen a bunch of people with no symptoms or such subtle symptoms that you wouldn’t think much of it prior to Covid.
As I said in response to your question the testing used is RAA. Not pcr. Omicron appears to be the pandemic ended and has ended it in the UK and Ireland as well as SA
The only question I have now is will it be ended here. The fact that biden is in such bad shape makes me think he will declare it over and take a victory Lap by 1 March
I notice you picked one of the least consequential adverse effects to make your case, since the vast majority of the cases are usually only temporary anyway.
Nothing DailyExpose.UK, Tenpenny, Kirsch, or any Blog has claimed is going to happen has panned out.
Please provide examples to back up your opinion. Since the vaccines have been introduced, deaths are exceeding normal deaths per year on average. Study of 145 countries finds sharp rise in virus transmission and death AFTER introduction of Covid vaccines
Meanwhile popular Right Wing radio personalities (4 at last count) that were against vaccines, a well know anti-Covid-vaccine leader on the internet, and other people known to the anti-Covid-vaccine community have died from Covid, including a woman recently that refused treatment when she went to the hospital because she couldn’t breath anymore.
Numerous Freepers here have had different experiences with Covid, some serious some mild. Even death has been reported.
But you seem to ignore all of that in favor of information from people you didn’t know until a few months ago. You pretend it’s not happening and fail to see the truth from Freepers you have known for many years, some for decades in favor of people that appeared out of nowhere on a Blog or Twitter.
No, it just seems that way to you, because you reject anything not coming from sources you hold in higher esteem. But the truth of the matter is that there has been a censoring program that the world has never seen before, especially in so called free democratic based nations. You take all these people who were once regarded as experts in their fields, who risk everything to try and impart their knowledge to the public and sound alarms. You buy the lies being perpetrated against them, and claim that they are only sounding the alarms to make money. Many, who have more money than they need. What a hypocrite you are. More importantly, what a fool you are to so readily dismiss them and their claims. I'm not listening to just "right-wing" commentators as you claim, I am listening to seasoned virologists, and others within other medical fields that have great knowledge about blood and other areas of expertise. But your usage of "right wing" is very telling, at least to me, for that is what a dishonest person would label them as.
Do some freepers die from Covid? I don't know, mainly because I don't really know any of them personally. Did they have one or more comorbidities and died with Covid, as opposed to from Covid? Were any of these admitted to the hospitals given remdesivir? Every person I personally know who contracted Covid or a variant has survived. Some took home remedies (as recommended by such doctors as Dr. Zelenko, Dr. Malone, to name just 2), some took monoclonal antibody treatments, some recovered from their own immune system. None died. But I have no way of knowing about Freepers or talk radio hosts, other than Joe Rogan who they are trying to vilify because he used ivermectin.
Even Dr. Malone is vaccinated. Yet he compels you not to get vaccinated. Does that really make sense to you?
I found one reference to that, but nowhere do I find irrefutable proof of that. But let's suppose he did take the vaccine. Being someone who has worked to develop vaccines, why would that surprise me? Perhaps it was before he started to really investigate it, or more importantly started to assess the true results from the vaccines and that they are not effective whatsoever, and that they have a true potential for being actually harmful. so, I am not swayed by that claim with no supporting evidence from you, and my inability to find irrefutable proof that, that is a true statement.
Oh, I just now saw your nonsense in the following:
Yeah, yeah he had “special” reasons why he got vaccinated and I’ve heard all of them as they morphed over time. He didn’t know the vaccine was that bad…..which didn’t reflect well on his expertise, so that changed to……..because of his age and health history, now he claims he got vaccinated so he could travel to seminars.
Perhaps he held more trust in the institutions than he should have. I mean most Americans had faith in them, but are now realizing that have been dishonest about everything to do with this plandemic.
But, it kind of lines up with what I said before reading what you said. People do change their opinions once they gt more information from which to form an opinion. But I agree with him that children, should not be subjected to these vaccines, especially since they are in the safest age group concerning this man manipulate virus that Dr. Fauci has played a big role in bringing it to the world.
But Malone is still vaccinated and YOU ARE NOT. That’s amazing.
Only amazing to an idiot like yourself. I have a healthy immune system/ Therefore, I see no reason to get vaccines. So far all has worked out well for me. That could change tomorrow, but at least it was my decision and my right. No fool like you is going to deprive me of my right, especially when the vaccinated are getting the virus and transmitting it. The real problem is we do not know the long term effects of these vaccines. But, I know that Bill gates has harped upon the over-population of the planet and his desire to reduce it to a more "sustainable" number. His involvement alone is more than sufficient cause to be skeptical of these vaccines. But the efficacy of these vaccines is rock solid proof for me that I made the right decision.
I suggest for your own good health to perhaps take a break from “saving us all from our own decisions” and read a good book (not vaccine or Covid related!) or even watch a good movie (again not vaccine or Covid related).
Trust me, I could care less what you do, because you already know all the answers, or so you believe. Time will prove one of us right. I may or may not be here to witness that, because I don't know when the good Lord will call me home. But I trust his judgement on when that will occur. Until then I will just live my life.
Abstract
The current outbreak of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) was reported in China firstly. A rapid, highly sensitive, specific, and simple operational method was needed for the detection of SARS-CoV-2. Here, we established a real-time reverse-transcription recombinase-aided amplification assay (RT-RAA) to detect SARS-CoV-2 rapidly. The primers and probe were designed based on the nucleocapsid protein gene (N gene) sequence of SARS-CoV-2. The detection limit was 10 copies per reaction in this assay, which could be conducted within 15 min at a constant temperature (39 °C), without any cross-reactions with other respiratory tract pathogens, such as other coronaviruses. Furthermore, compared with commercial real-time RT-PCR assay, it showed a kappa value of 0.959 (p < 0.001) from 150 clinical specimens. These results indicated that this real-time RT-RAA assay may be a valuable tool for detecting SARS-CoV-2.
Even they qualify it with: may be a valuable tool. That sounds very familiar with what was said about the PCR test. But they leave themselves wiggle room in case it is proven not to be a valuable tool after all. I certainly hope that it is a valuable tool, but I remain a skeptic. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
In a prior post you said:
Good morning. PCR is available but not the primary form of testing at least where I am. I can order it if I am suspicious and want a confirmatory diagnosis.
How can you use something that has proven to be useless, as a confirmatory diagnosis?
If people are not symptomatic beyond the incubation period, then it is more likely they never had the virus to begin with. If they indeed had the virus then their immune system handled it. Thus they are not spreaders. To claim otherwise is a fable, not reality.
PCR is not a useless tool — like all lessons in this pandemic — it is useful if applied properly. If I think I have a false negative on a RAA, and clinical data points toward infection, then a PCR is warranted as it is looking for a diagnosis based on clinical disease. It is useless as a screening tool, I will agree with that.
But one of the things people have lost sight of in this whole thing is appropriate utilization of testing and how and when to test.
even more important is the number of amplifications, which is totally beyond your control. That is why I say it is useless. Besides that you may get a positive on someone that defeated the virus with their immune system, yet you have no way of knowing if it is an active or dead fragment you are getting the positive hit on. That is why I say it is useless. You are not getting enough information. The same may hold true for the RT-RAA test as well. Which is why I still remain a skeptic.
There is no question that there are late positives that are clinically irrelevant with PCR. Again — it goes back to appropriate testing in the setting of a clinical course. RAAs are pretty darn good screening devices. False negatives are pretty rare. However, the lining up of people to get tested asymptomatically remains poor medicine — but people are scared
This is why I tend to think there is a door open for Biden to declare it over and try to get a bounce in the polls — certainly this is over from a pandemic stanpdpoint thanks to omicron — the next question is will the politicians allow it to end?
But I think enough people are already so tired of him, that he may actually end up in prison for his crimes that financially enriched him, the big guy.
There is no way that anyone will ever convince me he garnered 81 million votes legitimately. 🙂
Very good reply.
You put some time into it, thank you.
I picked Bell’s Palsy off the top of my head because that was a number I could remember without going back to look it up and because I had Bell’s Palsy in the Fall of 2018.
I’m going to FreepMail you with a FreeRepublic Link. Not an outside link.
Thanks again for a thoughtful reply.
Sometimes, it may become worth the effort. Glad you appreciated my effort. I responded to your Freep mail as well.
There's disturbing vaccine data coming from Scotland
Here is the link to the post on FreeRepublic:
The post on FreeRepublic regarding the diect article link I also included.
By the week beginning October 3, compared with COVID-19 cases rates among unvaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis, case rates among vaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis were 6.2-fold (California) and 4.5-fold (New York) lower; rates were substantially lower among both groups with previous COVID-19 diagnoses, including 29.0-fold (California) and 14.7-fold lower (New York) among unvaccinated persons with a previous diagnosis, and 32.5-fold (California) and 19.8-fold lower (New York) among vaccinated persons with a previous diagnosis of COVID-19. During the same period, compared with hospitalization rates among unvaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis, hospitalization rates in California followed a similar pattern. These results demonstrate that vaccination protects against COVID-19 and related hospitalization, and that surviving a previous infection protects against a reinfection and related hospitalization. Importantly, infection-derived protection was higher after the Delta variant became predominant, a time when vaccine-induced immunity for many persons declined because of immune evasion and immunologic waning (2,5,6).
(https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm)
Now let's look at those numbers more closely...
"case rates among vaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis were 6.2-fold (California) and 4.5-fold (New York) lower" than the unvaxxed with no exposure group... okay... but...
case rates are "29.0-fold (California) and 14.7-fold lower (New York) among unvaccinated persons with a previous diagnosis".
Got that? The two groups here are those Vaxxed before getting C-19, versus The Unvaxxed that already had C-19...
This necessarily means that you are 3-5 times SAFER if you get the Virus BEFORE you get the Vaccine!!!!
This means that the rush to illegally obtain the EUA, the illegal suppression of HCQ and ivermectin, and every single one of the mandates has ENDANGERED people, more than if they had waited to get their first exposure before getting the Vaccine!!! There is no other way to interpret that data!!!
The newly updated CDC guidelines don't require testing at the end of isolation because PCR tests can stay positive for up to 12 weeks, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky told “Good Morning America” Wednesday.
“So we would have people in isolation for a very long time if we were relying on PCRs,” Walensky said.
“Isolation” is the term for what one does who MAY have been exposed to someone with COVID-19, but did not contract it (the person didn’t have COVID-19 or had it but it didn’t necessarily wind up in the person isolating). Note she never said the person had to quarantine. “Quarantine” is the term for what you have to do when positive.
She literally said the PCR tests artificially say a person who never had COVID will show a false positive 12 weeks later.
This was also the general basis for stopping the use of PCR tests—they are notoriously wrong.
Now, if a test false positives 80% of the time, while also always showing a true positive 100% of the time—that test is basically useless. I would say the stats on false positives for the PCR were always wrong and done that way to inflate the numbers to make it look bad for Trump (‘PCR tests have low false positives.’). Now, that Biden is getting beaten up with that same methodology, the truth comes out.
This was always obvious to me. Especially after various people tested substances like soda pop, which wouldn't have Sars-Cov-2 RNA in it.
Was the CDC PCR guidance right for the past two years, or only right now, about the accuracy and usefulness of the PCR cycling test?
Why CDC doesn't require testing at end of isolation: Director
BTW, you seem to have gone suddenly silent on this topic. Why is that? Perhaps you have been extremely busy.
I agree with that.
I think their Data should be a available to monitoring institutions.
Perhaps an incentive would be Patent protection guaranteed Internationally.
That would remove the biggest reason for secrecy.
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