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OFFS! Seeing/hearing these fidiots spout BS is like a massive ice cream cone brain freeze. Hey 'x'. The supremes do not control who lives and dies. As far as conscience, some of them have shown they're too stoopid to have one. Obvious because they flat out bald faced lied about this farce. Other point being, all other data being discussed is NOT germane to the issue at hand. Constitution (period!). That is all. Not how many died, how many are on ventilators etc........ Not the safety or efficacy of any of these experimental liquids being jabbed into people.
1 posted on 01/11/2022 5:54:43 PM PST by rktman
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are we threatening SCOTUS now?? This could get serious.


33 posted on 01/11/2022 6:42:49 PM PST by elpadre ( ying them.)
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The issue for the court is a legal one.

It concerns the OSHA mandate.

The vaccines don’t seem to prevent omicron transmission.

The vaccines do tend to prevent infections from becoming very serious.

It is not at all a proven fact that say 95 vaccinated infected persons are less of a workplace threat than say 100 unvaccinated infected persons.

The unvaccinated persons will probably get sicker and may be far more likely to take a sick day and thereby safeguard their co-workers.

They will also probably get sick faster. An unvaccinated person infected on Friday may be very sick by Sunday afternoon. A vaccinated person infected on Friday may only get noticeably sick on Monday afternoon.

To be sure, clinical trials and mathematical analysis would need to be conducted.

Getting vaccinated is generally a good thing individually for older adults and unhealthy persons.


34 posted on 01/11/2022 6:49:32 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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Well jimmy my kimmel--hard to believe that big pharma donated millions to these compassionate democRATs.
35 posted on 01/11/2022 6:52:45 PM PST by DaBroasta
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Yeah, but the NATION will die if the SCOTUS continues not sticking to its knitting and determine the constitutionality of LAWS. They have no business taking account of how many people might die as a result of their decision.

I’d happily accept a few more deaths if we can preserve the Republic and our form of government.


36 posted on 01/11/2022 6:53:52 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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If the Supreme Court justices actually did their appointed jobs, and no more, it would be one of the easiest jobs there is. The Constitution was written very deliberately to be understandable to the average citizen. It’s not written in stilted, impenetrably complex legalese. The only portions where the authors’ intent might not be blatantly obvious are less clear only because of changes in meaning of certain words over time. In those very limited cases, it is dead easy to go back to the other writings of the authors to ascertain what they intended. It is also possible to simply look at the actions of those very same people immediately after ratification (such as Congress appropriating public funds to purchase Bibles and hire preachers to evangelize the Indian tribes - “wall of separation” my eye).

It’s so easy to determine whether a law or governmental action is constitutional that a child could do it. It certainly doesn’t take some type of “super judge”, and in fact Supreme Court justices are not required to be judges, or even lawyers. But of course, leftists don’t see the court this way. They see it as an alternative legislature, through which they can implement their preferred policies and even bend American law to fit that of other countries. Their absolute last consideration is fidelity to the intent of the Constitution’s authors.

It’s gone so far now that the Supreme Court really serves no productive purpose. When justices are constantly musing about what they believe to be the “best” result of a pending decision, instead of just calling constitutional balls and strikes, they are WAY outside their lane.

37 posted on 01/11/2022 6:54:04 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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OSHA doesn’t have a damn thing to do with this.

The bastards might order me to wear PPE around 480V but i’ll be damned if they tell me to inject shit into my body.


40 posted on 01/11/2022 6:58:10 PM PST by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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Why is the federal government trying to mandate vaccines developed for last year’s Covid variants when they aren’t effective against this years variant?


42 posted on 01/11/2022 7:00:26 PM PST by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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1914 SCHLOENDORFF COURT DECISION

“Every human being of adult years and sound mind has a right to determine what shall be done with his own body; and a surgeon who performs an operation without his patient’s consent commits an assault for which he is liable in damages. This is true except in cases of emergency where the patient is unconscious and where it is necessary to operate before consent can be obtained.”

Justice Benjamin Cardozo, who became a US Supreme Court judge later in life

Schloendorff v. Society of New York Hospital, 105 N.E. 92 (N.Y. 1914)


45 posted on 01/11/2022 7:06:27 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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46 posted on 01/11/2022 7:10:41 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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The Indian COVAXIN vaccine was not created or made with human fetal cells.

The FDA could approve this vaccine, now used in Mexico, tomorrow morning and most religious objections would have no logical basis.

It has typical Covid vaccine administration side effects.


47 posted on 01/11/2022 7:12:50 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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Using lies to breed fear is one of the oldest tactics of politics.


50 posted on 01/11/2022 7:20:10 PM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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“USEFULNESS of Topic Ivermectin and Carrageenan to Prevent Contagion of Covid 19 (IVERCAR):

ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT04425850
Recruitment Status : Completed
First Posted : June 11, 2020
Results First Posted : October 19, 2020
Last Update Posted : October 19, 2020

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/results/NCT04425850?term=ivermectin&recrs=e&draw=4&rank=22

Number of participants testing positive for COVID-19 after inclusion in each arm

IVER+
Standard prophylactic measures and PPEs + topical treatment with iota carrageenan (nasal and buccal) and ivermectin (buccal)

0

IVER-
Standard prophylactic measures and PPEs only

11

MY PERSONAL NOTE: This is of a combination specially made to be medically useful. It is not available from equine medicine retailers. I have no idea how long it takes to administer each day.


52 posted on 01/11/2022 7:29:55 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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Many people have died from the gov't lockdowns -- but it won't be on the gov't conscience.

This gov't HAS no conscience. It's as psychopathic as can be.

54 posted on 01/11/2022 7:45:14 PM PST by Sooth2222 (“Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite.” ("Every nation has the government it deserves.”) )
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He's a lawyer by trade. He knows about as much about medicine, viruses and epidemiology as my dog does.

"If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table."

56 posted on 01/11/2022 7:50:34 PM PST by Sooth2222 (“Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite.” ("Every nation has the government it deserves.”) )
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Not a doctor or medical professional. So who is going to believe a scum sucking bottom feeding lawyer?


57 posted on 01/11/2022 7:53:23 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (When Satan craps another demon possessed Progressive is born.)
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This is ridiculous hyperbole - trying to act as though blocking a mandate also blocks people from getting the vaccine who are willing to get it.

Getting so tired of this crap.


61 posted on 01/11/2022 8:27:48 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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I thought that obese transvestite was head of HHS?


63 posted on 01/11/2022 8:34:12 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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All you hear from raging, useful idiot leftists (i.e. democrat taliban party members and voters) is some version of ‘the sky is falling’.


66 posted on 01/12/2022 3:24:43 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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