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To: Dr. Franklin

It also shows fundamental weakness: he had to call in foreign troops because his own army couldn’t be trusted to shoot their own people. I read something similar about the Maidan protests in Ukraine. Yanukovich had snipers (Ukrainian or Russian) shooting protesters but his own forces refused to open fire and that’s when he ran out of Ukraine.


8 posted on 01/08/2022 9:13:40 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

Yanukovich had snipers (Ukrainian or Russian) shooting protesters but his own forces refused to open fire


Sure to be used as the model when things get hot here. Possibly using various cartel snipers


17 posted on 01/08/2022 9:43:52 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: pierrem15
Yanukovich had snipers (Ukrainian or Russian) shooting protesters but his own forces refused to open fire and that’s when he ran out of Ukraine.

At least that's what the US State Dept. would have you believe....there's more than a few holes in that narrative though, starting with who controlled access to the building the snipers used.

30 posted on 01/08/2022 10:34:21 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: pierrem15

The rifle fire on the Maidan came from a building occuppied by Right Sektor and Svoboda. The shot a few of their own. That’s pretty well established.


44 posted on 01/08/2022 11:06:22 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: pierrem15

If it was the government doing the sniping, it would have been in the open, just a plain old assault. If you are the government, sniping random people from a hide, and then concealing that you did it, that doesn’t do much for you.

On the other hand, if you are the fascist elements of the Maidan movement, and you can snipe a few people you really don’t like anyway, you can get use it as a provocation, wave the bloody shirt, and inflame the mob.

See also, Ray Epps.


46 posted on 01/08/2022 11:11:46 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: pierrem15

It is proven beyond doubt that the snipers were a false flag by the opposition. Nuland told them that 100 dead are needed for the West to support ouster of Yanukovich.

You also need to update yourself on what is really happening in Kazakhstan. Domestic or foreign, the “rebels” are armed to the teeth and they started the shooting.


58 posted on 01/08/2022 3:02:41 PM PST by NorseViking
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