Posted on 01/06/2022 10:10:10 AM PST by Navy Patriot
Fresh violence raged in Kazakhstan’s main city on Thursday after Russia rushed in paratroopers overnight to put down a countrywide uprising in the former Soviet state closely allied to Moscow.
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Nazarbayev’s hand-picked successor, President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev called in forces from ally Russia overnight as part of a Moscow-led military alliance of ex-Soviet states. He blamed the unrest on foreign-trained terrorists who he said had seized buildings and weapons.
“It is an undermining of the integrity of the state and most importantly it is an attack on our citizens who are asking me… to help them urgently,” he said.
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“When you need to bring in foreign troops to shoot your own people, you have already lost the population.”
Either that or you’re fighting an enemy being materially supported by a foreign power.
“The Russian goal is to as near as possible recover the borders of 1914.”
Either that or not have ENEMY STATES on their borders.
“Who am I supposed to be pulling for?”
Whoever the media is NOT supporting or wants you to support.
You mean like our Monroe Doctrine? How dare Russia try to copy us.
“Ukraine would not be in trouble if the Russians were not illegally occupying Crimea and Donbass.”
Actually Russians are the majority of RESIDENTS in both areas.
There you go.
No, Russians were only a majority in Crimea.
According to a 2001 census, ethnic Ukrainians make up 56.9% of the total population of Donbas as a whole with ethnic Russians making up the largest minority, making up 38.2% of the total population of Donbas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People%27s_Republic
There is a chance for freedom and democracy, which does not exist for them now.
The Western nations do not allow freedom when it comes to COVID policy that is for sure.
The title is wrong.
The violence is not “fresh” arising from the Russian actions. It was already happening before the Russian action. Putin thinks he is backing up one of his state-underlings (how he thinks of them whether they agree with that or not). In 2013 Putin made the statement that the Kazaks had never had an independent state; which is historically not true. The Soviet Union did not capture Kazakhstan, that was done in the 1800s by the Russian Empire prior to the formation of the Soviet Union and some 400 years after an indepedent Kazak state had been formed. As a result of the history as a part of the Russian/Soviet empire, the use of the Russian language stands about even with the Kazak language in Kazakhstan.
“The Kazakh regime is bringing in Russian troops to save them.”
Yes, they have had mainly one executive authority figure - Nursultan Nazarbaev - since their independence from the Soviet Union, and even though Nazarbaev claimed to be retired in 2019 everyone suspects/thinks he still pulled most of the strings when he chose.
But, here is the part of the background story many reports are leaving out and may be why only now are Russian troops being called in to help the Kazak regime.
“Autocratic former president Nursultan Nazarbaev, who’d led Kazakhstan since independence, resigned in 2019 but remained a powerful figure behind the scenes (until being relieved of his position on the Security Council on Wednesday). Such a transition model may have appealed to Putin at the time, but it looks less promising today.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/06/asia/kazakhstan-uprising-russia-analysis-intl/index.html
I think it is a legitimate question if the Kazak regime would have called Russia in if Nazarbaev was still on the Kazak security council and it is noteworthy how swiftly Russia came in after Nazarbaev was taken off the security council.
It is Putties intent to re-establish the Soviet Union, by hook or crook.
“The Kazakh regime is bringing in Russian troops to save them.”
Yes, they have had mainly one executive authority figure - Nursultan Nazarbaev - since their independence from the Soviet Union, and even though Nazarbaev claimed to be retired in 2019 everyone suspects/thinks he still pulled most of the strings when he chose.
But, here is the part of the background story many reports are leaving out and may be why only now are Russian troops being called in to help the Kazak regime.
“Autocratic former president Nursultan Nazarbaev, who’d led Kazakhstan since independence, resigned in 2019 but remained a powerful figure behind the scenes (until being relieved of his position on the Security Council on Wednesday). Such a transition model may have appealed to Putin at the time, but it looks less promising today.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/06/asia/kazakhstan-uprising-russia-analysis-intl/index.html
I think it is a legitimate question if the Kazak regime would have called Russia in if Nazarbaev was still on the Kazak security council and it is noteworthy how swiftly Russia came in after Nazarbaev was taken off the security council.
The country is about 23% Christian, 70%+ Muslim. A recipe for instability.
Regimes that fix or subsidize energy/fuel prices by executive fiat and at some point have to raise them, or allow market forces to raise them, forget that the previous fixed/subsidized prices were taken as an entitlement for as long as the prices stayed low.
That was what Kazakhstan had been doing for many years and only just in 2019 began to transition to fuel prices being determined by markets.
The current turmoil has followed the end of government subsidized fuel prices and this past years increase in market based fuel prices. It may be better for the Kazaks in the long run but for now they feel like a former entitlement has been pulled away - which is in fact what has happened. Try ending all federal long standing aid for XXXXX today and see what happens.
“Ukraine would not be in trouble if the Maidan Agitators had not performed a Coup d’état and illegally removed the Lawful Ukraine Government.”
And this gave Russia an excuse to invade Ukraine...how?
“Actually Russians are the majority of RESIDENTS in both areas.”
Then the lesson here is that any nation with a sizable Russian population should KICK THEM THE HELL OUT so Russia doesn’t use them as an excuse to invade.
I agree.
And I notice the Putin trolls are here today to serve their master.
Ukraine can also obtain or develop nuclear weapons to deter the Russian prestupniks.
Or they can join NATO. That’s always an option.
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